Hi Alexander, As for the status of Montage requests: I suggest that you start a separate thread on that, and would like to leave this to the maintainers to respond to.
As for publishing the settings: I was imagining some kind of log-style publication, not a near write-up. This won't be pretty, but it will allow people to figure out how it worked out in practice. If we follow a logical naming convention, people should be able to puzzle it together. Ideally, the national organizers also publish their process on the website, but this log would be a way to verify that. But I accept your note that we may need to add a context explaining that more process may happen before/after this tool is used. Lodewijk On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 3:17 PM Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Lodewijk, > > We also intend to publish by default the settings of the montage jury > tool, and the number of photos in each round that the national competitions > have used. We're debating whether there should be an opt-out for this year. > > This is unrealistic, because jury process may involve several campaigns > that are later merged together (in Russia, we do it all the time in order > to meet your submission deadline). Moreover, some of the photos can be > accepted for the next round within Montage but excluded later on if we find > that they do not depict cultural heritage. The end result is that any > number you take from Montage will not match the number of photos that we > publish (e.g., as a short-list). This will only lead to confusion and won't > be of any use for anyone. > > Since you mentioned Montage, let me also ask when two important pull > requests, which were done by one of our team members, are going to be > merged into the code: > https://github.com/hatnote/montage/pull/169 > https://github.com/hatnote/montage/pull/175 > These are really, really important fixes. Without them I would have a > problem creating new Montage campaigns in October. > > Sincerely, > Alexander > > > On 9/2/2020 11:49 PM, effe iets anders wrote: > > Hi all, > > over the past years, we have had various requests to encourage national > organizers to be transparent in their judging processes and who sits on > their jury. Most of the national organizers are currently transparent about > this already. In the past weeks/month, more conversation around this has > continued with some concerns (valid or not) on certain jury processes. > > In this light, the international team intends to institute a new > expectation for national organizers, namely to publish the members of their > jury (be it their username or real life name) at some point. We have not > figured out the practical details yet, but I can imagine that while we > encourage publication on the website, we would ask national organizers to > add a list of jury members to their submission to the international jury - > which we then will publish as well. > > We also intend to publish by default the settings of the montage jury > tool, and the number of photos in each round that the national competitions > have used. We're debating whether there should be an opt-out for this year. > > We will of course apply at least the same level of transparency to the > international jury. > > Before we make this decision, I would like to ask for feedback on this, > and whether there are edge cases we should consider where such transparency > would be harmful. I'll take 1 week to gather some feedback on this, and > then we'll make a final decision. You can respond to this on this mailing > list, or privately to me. > > Warmly, > Lodewijk > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing > [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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