If WLM Ireland is in September I can help as a juror. If it is in October this could be more difficult because I am also in the jury for Russia, and there is typically a lot of work there.
Generally, asking around (may be also on Commons) typically helps. In the past I have been on jury for a few different countries. Somebody would just approach me and ask.If I can make it, I agree. Yaroslav On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <marti...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Rebecca! > > I have organized multiple WLM/WLE editions in Latvia. We have used Montage > in most of them. > After experiencing problems with jurors dropping out or being known at the > last moment, we created new Wikimedia accounts just for the jury and sent > the passwords to them. > > Montage allows some editing of jurors after the round has started but > results can be unexpected. > > Mārtiņš > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 2:13 AM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Lodewijk, >> >> As a slight aside to this, and perhaps something that might help ease >> some of the worries around judging processes in other countries, would it >> be an idea to have a pool of international WLM Wikimedia jurors that could >> help judge other countries? Here in Ireland we have done this with Malta, >> exchanging jurors over the past few years, and for our first WLE this year >> we had Axel from Sweden be on our jury. You get the benefit of a fellow >> Wikimedian who understands the whole process, and who could bring some >> different expertise or perspective to a country's WLM. Having someone who >> is completely unfamiliar with your local built heritage means they can >> assess the images with a different take than someone who knows them very >> well. >> >> After 6 years, we have found it harder to recruit a jury from our pool of >> active Wikimedians and relevant expert judges from the arts and >> architecture sectors in Ireland. I know I would really appreciate it if we >> could "borrow" a juror from another Wikimedia group (in the past we have >> had some UK help with this too with jurors). We have suffered from jurors >> dropping out of the process at the last minute or after judging has begun >> (which results in having to restart rounds in Montage), generally it has >> been those who are not Wikimedians who perhaps did not fully understand the >> commitment when they agreed. Not only is it frustrating, it's very >> stressful. It may be less of an issue this year, given that the deadline >> for submitting to the international jury won't be at the end of October. >> >> Hope that helps clarify some of the issues some of the smaller countries >> can face over the years of WLM! >> Thanks, >> Rebecca >> >> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 23:57, effe iets anders <effeietsand...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alexander, >>> >>> As for the status of Montage requests: I suggest that you start a >>> separate thread on that, and would like to leave this to the maintainers to >>> respond to. >>> >>> As for publishing the settings: I was imagining some kind of log-style >>> publication, not a near write-up. This won't be pretty, but it will allow >>> people to figure out how it worked out in practice. If we follow a logical >>> naming convention, people should be able to puzzle it together. Ideally, >>> the national organizers also publish their process on the website, but this >>> log would be a way to verify that. But I accept your note that we may need >>> to add a context explaining that more process may happen before/after this >>> tool is used. >>> >>> Lodewijk >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 3:17 PM Alexander Tsirlin <altsir...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Lodewijk, >>>> >>>> We also intend to publish by default the settings of the montage jury >>>> tool, and the number of photos in each round that the national competitions >>>> have used. We're debating whether there should be an opt-out for this year. >>>> >>>> This is unrealistic, because jury process may involve several campaigns >>>> that are later merged together (in Russia, we do it all the time in order >>>> to meet your submission deadline). Moreover, some of the photos can be >>>> accepted for the next round within Montage but excluded later on if we find >>>> that they do not depict cultural heritage. The end result is that any >>>> number you take from Montage will not match the number of photos that we >>>> publish (e.g., as a short-list). This will only lead to confusion and won't >>>> be of any use for anyone. >>>> >>>> Since you mentioned Montage, let me also ask when two important pull >>>> requests, which were done by one of our team members, are going to be >>>> merged into the code: >>>> https://github.com/hatnote/montage/pull/169 >>>> https://github.com/hatnote/montage/pull/175 >>>> These are really, really important fixes. Without them I would have a >>>> problem creating new Montage campaigns in October. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Alexander >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/2/2020 11:49 PM, effe iets anders wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> over the past years, we have had various requests to encourage national >>>> organizers to be transparent in their judging processes and who sits on >>>> their jury. Most of the national organizers are currently transparent about >>>> this already. In the past weeks/month, more conversation around this has >>>> continued with some concerns (valid or not) on certain jury processes. >>>> >>>> In this light, the international team intends to institute a new >>>> expectation for national organizers, namely to publish the members of their >>>> jury (be it their username or real life name) at some point. We have not >>>> figured out the practical details yet, but I can imagine that while we >>>> encourage publication on the website, we would ask national organizers to >>>> add a list of jury members to their submission to the international jury - >>>> which we then will publish as well. >>>> >>>> We also intend to publish by default the settings of the montage jury >>>> tool, and the number of photos in each round that the national competitions >>>> have used. We're debating whether there should be an opt-out for this year. >>>> >>>> We will of course apply at least the same level of transparency to the >>>> international jury. >>>> >>>> Before we make this decision, I would like to ask for feedback on this, >>>> and whether there are edge cases we should consider where such transparency >>>> would be harmful. I'll take 1 week to gather some feedback on this, and >>>> then we'll make a final decision. You can respond to this on this mailing >>>> list, or privately to me. >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> Lodewijk >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing >>>> listWikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> PhD in Digital Media >> Project Coordinator Wikimedia Community Ireland <http://wikimedia.ie> >> She/Her >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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