There's an important question which hasn't been asked in this thread so far: Wikimania 2014 will be big and outreach-focused, with plans for a parallel "wikifest". How will the ticket price of Wikifest compare to Wikimania?
A random idea from me: maybe we should make wikifest more like a museum exhibition, without complementary food, so we can keep the price low? If they want included food, they can pay extra for the non-Wikimedian ticket to Wikimania. On 24 Mar 2014 20:35, "Andrew Gray" <[email protected]> wrote: > As a quick note, the ticket prices for GLAM-Wiki in 2013 were set in > two tiers - simply "individual" and "institutional", and we left it to > people to figure out what they felt was appropriate in their case. I > don't think there was a "Wikimedian" rate, but this was implicitly who > we were targeting with "individual". > > Both were probably below-cost, at £20 and £50 (?) for two days, but I > don't have a copy of the calculations to hand to be sure by how much - > in any case, the only major cost was that of catering for two days, as > the venue and technical support were covered either by the BL or WMUK, > and a part-contribution to the cost of speakers travel. > > One issue that might be worth bearing in mind is that a below-cost > ticket for Wikimania 2014 might well cost substantially more than an > above-cost ticket for Wikimania 2005 - as Wikimania has grown, it's > being run at a pretty high standard and the costs are no doubt > climbing to match. If we want a cheaper conference - should we be > scaling back to something less expensive and less professional? > > Andrew. > > > On 23 March 2014 01:54, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wikimania indeed has a tradition of setting artificially low entry prices > > for the reasons Nicholas described earlier in this thread. Of course, > > there's nothing to stop Wikimania 2014 from raising ticket prices. I > should > > remind though that until 2013 we basically have a hierarchy of 4 ticket > > prices: > > > > 1. Non-Wikimedian price: supposedly the full cost (but is still > effectively > > slightly subsidised) > > 2. Wikimedian price: substantially subsidised entry and food, for those > > who've paid a lot to travel to the venue from the other side of the world > > 3. Partial scholarship: for those who can almost / just about afford to > > attend Wikimania on their own budget, but would use up their savings > unless > > their air travel was subsidised. The partial scholarship encourages them > to > > go to *more* Wikimanias. > > 4. Full scholarship (for those who simply can't afford Wikimania) > > > > In 2014, the partial scholarship is removed, so I would hesitate to raise > > the Wikimedian ticket prices, lest we disincentivise "medium-income" > > Wikimedians (particularly students) from attending. However, by all means > > consider raising the non-Wikimedian price, or even have a "donor price" > > (full cost + £100, say?) with a shiny badge to let generous attendees pay > > more! > > > > Deryck > > > > Deryck > > > > On 23 Mar 2014 08:07, "Charles Gregory" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> My impression was that the prices took into account that (a) most > members > >> of the Wikimedia community are volunteers (b) most attendees have paid > many > >> hundreds, if not thousands of US$ in airfares/accommodation costs to > attend, > >> on top of the ticket price. Volunteers also have to use up their own > annual > >> leave (or forgo wages) if their Wikimedia activities are not on behalf > of > >> their employer. > >> > >> You could get away with having separate rates. The other conference I > >> have experience with, Linux.conf.au, has rates which differ by almost > an > >> order of magnitude: Professional $899, Hobbyist $399, Student $99. > (These > >> prices are Australian dollars, which is approx USD +/- 10%) (IMHO the > >> Hobbyist rate here is still a bit high for a volunteer.) This > conference > >> is, however, a major source of income for Linux Australia, whereas > Wikimania > >> is indirectly supported by donations to WMF. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Charles > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Nicholas Bashour > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> For Wikimania 2012, I remember that we wanted to make sure the largest > >>> number of people could attend. DC was an expensive enough city that we > felt > >>> if registration prices were too high, it may discourage some of the > people > >>> who didn't get scholarships from attending. > >>> > >>> That being said, there's no reason why future Wikimanias shouldn't > offer > >>> various pricing options, like higher "individual sponsorship" > registration > >>> for those who want to sponsor on a smaller level, student > registration, etc. > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Nicholas Michael Bashour > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> > Am 22.03.2014 um 19:21 schrieb Samuel Klein <[email protected]>: > >>> > > >>> > Proposed prices for Wikimania tickets continue to seem artificially > >>> > low. I'm not sure what the benefit to this is. Could people who have > >>> > run events in other contexts comment on how you set ticket prices? > >>> > > >>> > In my experience, tickets are set at roughly what it costs for each > >>> > person to attend. Then there may be different sorts of tickets: for > >>> > local supporters & volunteers, for school groups, for students & > >>> > community members, presenters, VIPs & sponsors. Sponsorship helps > >>> > ensure how many tickets of each type there are. Last-minute tickets > >>> > are more expensive. > >>> > > >>> > This has a few benefits: > >>> > * tickets fully cover the cost of food and materials > >>> > * tickets contribute significantly to covering the cost of the event > >>> > * scholarships and reimbursements for attendance (for scholars, > >>> > professionals, academics all getting covered by their home > >>> > institutions), in paying for tickets, cover the full cost of those > >>> > people attending the event. > >>> > * more accurate headcounts in advance. > >>> > > >>> > Warmly, > >>> > Sam > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Wikimania-l mailing list > >>> > [email protected] > >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimania-l mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimania-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > -- > - Andrew Gray > [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >
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