+1 Shabab Bhai.. I think now everyone easy to understand the matter.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Shabab Mustafa <[email protected]>wrote: > I am changing the subject title to keep this discussion under correct > heading. > > This very thing has bugged me for a long time and I gave it some more > intense thoughts and a little research. Here I am not trying to preach > about what is 'Right' and what is 'Wrong', rather I am just presenting > facts I have discovered and what are my thought on this matter for further > discussion. I will try to keep it as short as possible. > > According to the Eighth Amendment of the constitution of Peoples Republic > of Bangladesh, Section 3 reads, "The state language of the Republic is > Bangla"[1]. So, it's clear that Bangladesh has officially declared the > language should be spelled as 'Bangla'. And we are bound to use 'Bangla' as > every official documents and so on. > > Bangla is not only spoken in Bangladesh. Bangla is also spoken in least 3 > major regions; West Bengal, Tripura, Assam (Barak valley), Andaman and > Nicobar Islands. [2] There is a lot of other people around the world also > speaks Bangla as well. > > When we are talking about Bangla in Bangladesh, it's fairly simple. But it > have an international context, situation is different. > > ISO (International Organization of Standardization)[3] is the body > responsible for setting international standards. People follow ISO > standards on International matters regardless of their domestic practice > (i.e. some countries use 'Mile' as domestic unit of length, but also use > 'Kilometer' when international matters involved) and this is the commonly > accepted manner. > > ISO has set up a list of language and their universal codes for it, which > are widely accepted by the UN countries. On 'ISO 639-1' standards[4] a > two-letter code was adopted and 'ISO 639-2' [5] adopted a three-letter > code. For 'Bengali' which are 'bn' and 'ben' respectively. [6] > > On this coding system, some language have had initials of their original > form/spelling of their language. Like, Persian. 'Persian' is the English > name of 'Farsi'. Persian has language codes like 'fa' and 'far'. On 'ISO > 639-2/T' it adopted the three letters from the English name of the > Language, 'per'. Same thing happened to German and French ('German', > 'Deutsch', 'de', 'deu', 'ger' and 'French', 'français', 'fr', 'fra','fre'). > [6] > > These ISO codes are also widely used on field of IT. Systems recognize > languages with their English names than their native names. This is mainly > because of that a non 'German' speaker doesn't wonder about what 'Deutsch' > is. This rule was applied universally for all the languages. And under this > rule, 'Bangla' became 'Bengali', just like 'Français' became 'French'. > > So, the thing is, when we are using 'Bangla' for our domestic use, > 'Bangla' is the correct (bound by the constitution) spelling for 'Bangla'. > But when we are talking international matters, it should be 'Bengali' for > more practical and logical reasons. > > Ref: > ----- > [1] > http://bdlaws.minlaw.gov.bd/sections_detail.php?id=367§ions_id=24550 > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language > [3] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization > [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-1 > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-2 > [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes > --- > Shabab Mustafa > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Aditya <[email protected]> wrote: > >> i also support that view. "bangla", not "bengali". >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:03 PM >> To: "Discussion list for Bangladeshi Wikimedians" < >> [email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-BD] A good news about Bengali Wikipedia >> >> Can we please mention 'bangla' instead of 'bengali' ? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Safwan Rahman >>> Sent: 23/01/2014, 13:04 >>> To: Discussion list for Bangladeshi Wikimedians >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-BD] A good news about Bengali Wikipedia >>> >>> >>> How they have collected the data and made the statistics? >>> >>> On 1/23/14, Nurunnaby Chowdhury <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Belayet Bhai, >>>> Times of India published this news. Check this link: >>>> http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2014-01-20/ >>>> internet/46374197_1_google-page-views-page-views >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014/1/22 Belayet Hossain <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Hasive, >>>>> Thank you for your news at prothom alo. Please give us the original >>>>> reference of that statistics or facts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Belayet >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014/1/22 Nurunnaby Chowdhury <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> প্রিয় সবাই, >>>>>> একটা ভালো খবর.. >>>>>> ২০১২ সালের ডিসেম্বর থেকে ২০১৩ সালের ডিসেম্বর পর্যন্ত পাওয়া তথ্য >>>>>> অনুযায়ী >>>>>> এক বছরে বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ার ব্যবহার বেড়েছে ৪৬ শতাংশ। বাংলার পাশাপাশি >>>>>> উইকিপিডিয়ার হিন্দি সংস্করণের ব্যবহার ৩৪ শতাংশ, মালায়ালাম সংস্করণ ৩৬ >>>>>> শতাংশ, >>>>>> মারাঠি সংস্করণ ৪ শতাংশ এবং তেলেগু ১ শতাংশ বেড়েছে। এ নিয়ে আজ প্রথম >>>>>> আলোতে >>>>>> প্রকাশিত সংবাদ: >>>>>> >>>>>> *বাংলা উইকিপিডিয়ার ব্যবহার >>>>>> বেড়েছে*<http://www.prothom-alo.com/technology/article/128638> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* >>>>>> Administrator | Bangla >>>>>> Wikipedia<http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive> >>>>>> Social Media Interaction Expert & >>>>>> Assignment Reporter | The Daily Prothom-Alo < >>>>>> http://www.prothom-alo.com> >>>>>> Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network >>>>>> <http://www.okfn.org> >>>>>> Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) >>>>>> <http://www.bdosn.org> >>>>>> fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive <http://www.twitter.com/nhasive> | Skype: >>>>>> nhasive | www.nhasive.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia-BD mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Belayet Hossain >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/bellayet <http://www.facebook.com/bellayet> >>>>> https://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:bellayet<http://bn. >>>>> wikipedia.org/wiki/user:bellayet> >>>>> https://reps.mozilla.org >>>>> /u/bellayet<https://reps.mozilla.org/u/bellayet/> >>>>> http://twitter.com/bellayet >>>>> http://mozillianbd.wordpress.com >>>>> http://bellayet.wordpress.com (Bangla) >>>>> Knowledge is universal >>>>> ...so share it. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-BD mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* >>>> Administrator | Bangla Wikipedia >>>> <http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive> >>>> Social Media Interaction Expert & >>>> Assignment Reporter | The Daily Prothom-Alo <http://www.prothom-alo.com >>>> > >>>> Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network >>>> <http://www.okfn.org> >>>> Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) < >>>> http://www.bdosn.org> >>>> fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive <http://www.twitter.com/nhasive> | Skype: >>>> nhasive >>>> | www.nhasive.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-BD mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-BD mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-BD mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-BD mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd > > -- *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive* Administrator | Bangla Wikipedia <http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive> Social Media Interaction Expert & Assignment Reporter | The Daily Prothom-Alo <http://www.prothom-alo.com> Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Foundation Network <http://www.okfn.org> Treasurer | Bangladesh Open Source Network (BdOSN) <http://www.bdosn.org> fb.com/nhasive | @nhasive <http://www.twitter.com/nhasive> | Skype: nhasive | www.nhasive.com
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