Hi Anders, you wrote:
> And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually
> helps recruting and keeping editors
Do you have any prove for that or is this just a speculation or your
personal wishes? Does this mean that the Swedish community precisely
because this botwork has - against the general trend - no loss of authors?
I know very well what it means to attract new authors and to retain
them. But I also know that it is not because of automated welcome bots,
but mostly with personal contact.
By this logic, any other Wikipedias, which even have a higher proportion
of automated generated articles will get even more new authors.
If this is all true, I would change my mind immediately!
hu
Am 17.06.2013 12:43, schrieb Anders Wennersten:
In the beginning there were a mass of article created manually that was
substandard and which today would not be accepted as proper articles
A little later (several year ago now) a mass of articles were
botgenerated that were substandard and could not be seen as proper
wp:articles
We have since long learned how to write good articles created by our
editors.
We are just now, on a few wikiepdiaverisons, learning how to create good
articles by bots, that give both facts, content, context and knowledge
(also using the new new valuable tool Wikidata which is a good
component but not all that is needed)
I am proud to be active in one of these versions mastering this new
intellectual challenge, of huge value in providing free knowledge for all.
And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting
and keeping editors
Anders
Hubertl skrev 2013-06-17 12:09:
Payin´ peanuts, gettin´ monkeys
Servin´ facts, gettin´ idiots.
An unmanageable, not maintainable mass of articles is the best way to
breed idiots. Because facts do not create knowledge.
If that is our goal, then automatically created Wikipedias ar the best
way to solve one of our biggest problems, namely the permanent loss of
authors.
Maybe it is completely sufficient if you know that somewhere facts are
stored in a most possible stupid form.
I started more than fifty years ago learning about facts, facts
without understanding. But nine years ago I startet to learn something
about knowledge, understanding and correlations.
Why do not you need people like me? If we have bots now?
Do we want to make ourselves more important with impressive numbers?
Hubertl!
The german language Wikipedia has no single article that was generated
by a bot. I'm proud of it. If this would take place in de:WP, many
people will leave this project. With certainty.
Anyway, that does not matter, a bot is probably much better for monkeys!
Am 16.06.2013 14:51, schrieb Nurunnaby Chowdhury:
Congratulations swedish wikipedians!!!!
*Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive*
Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Network Foundation
(OKFN)<http://www.okfn.org>
Auto-confirmed, Reviewer & Roll backer Editor | Bangla
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Treasurer & Coordinator (PR) | Bangladesh Open Source Network
(BdOSN)<http://www.bdosn.org>
Coordinator (PR) | Society for the Popularization of Science, Bangladesh
(SPSB) <http://www.spsb.org>*
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On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Liam Wyatt <liamwy...@gmail.com> wrote:
grattis mina kompisar!
*Jag känner en bott, hon heter Lsjbot, Lsjbot heter hon...*
It looks like Polish will be the next to hit the symbolic number:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#100_000.2B_articles
wittylama.com
Peace, love & metadata
On 16 June 2013 22:39, Tonmoy Khan <tonmoy...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congratulations!!!
Tonmoy
On Jun 16, 2013 6:30 PM, "Patricio Lorente"
<patricio.lore...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Congratulations to the swedish wikipedians!
2013/6/16 Anders Wennersten <m...@anderswennersten.se>:
Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing
was a
bot
generated article of a butterfly
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erysichton_elaborata.
The bot behind this article is Lsjbot who creates articles from the
database
Catalogue of Life
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/services/res/2011AC_26July.zip which
(complemented by other databases) which holds data of around 1.5
million
species. The bot genrates about 5000 new articles per day and has
generated
just under 400 000 of the sv:wps million and continues...
The guy who runs he bot is a member of the Swedish chapters board
http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kandidater_2013/Sverker_Johansson and
is
in his
civil life a University teacher. In this capacity he is also a guest
lecturer at the university of the Phillipines where he stayed the
last
couple of months (and the bot was on hold). He is there active in
Cebuano-Wikipedia http://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unang_Panid and
supporting
their local community, and he is now running his bot on their
wikipedia
as
well as on the Warai-Warai Wikipedia
http://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syahan_nga_Pakli. So perhaps at the
end
of the
year these two language versions will also pass the 1 million mark!
Anders
PS out other major botgenerating effort of all lakes in Sweden is
also
making very nice progress, done 25% of all DS
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