On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Wil Sinclair <w...@wllm.com> wrote: > This is really helpful. > > To clarify: > > Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia > has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy? > How many of those policies are marked as "Proposed"? > Are the "Proposed" policies enforced? > Are there projects/subdomains of Wikipedia and Wikimedia that have no > Child Protection Policy at all? > > I'll follow up on the issue of harassment policy in another thread, > since it seems like Child Protection Policy has been addressed > specifically with its own policies. > > Thanks, all! > ,Wil >
Hi Will, See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines for how policies on Wikipedia "work". The Terms of Service Federico pointed at are probably "different", but I don't know how different. --Martijn > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk> > wrote: > > I suppose the caveat would be that what actually happens may be > > *broader* than the policy suggests, if anything (eg deleting personal > > information on a pre-emptive basis) > > > > On the English Wikipedia, see also > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_parents > > > > In addition to the English Wikipedia policy, note that there's > > versions on four other wikis, as well. Catalan notes that theirs was > > "adaptat de l'anglesa i de Commons", so probably close in general > > content, and judging by the dates on them I suspect the others had a > > similar source, but you may want to check this. > > > > The Commons policy is at: > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Child_protection > > > > - also adapted from enwiki but marked as 'proposed'. > > > > There's a policy also marked as "proposed" on meta, dating from 2010; > > however, as it quotes the terms of service, I think we can reasonably > > conclude that the content does have the force of policy despite this > > tag :-) > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Child_protection > > > > The Wikimedia-wide terms of use were formally codified in 2012 (there > > had been ToU before then, but they mostly dealt with copyright issues) > > and do include relevant material in Section 4. But I know this has > > been a topic raised on many occasions well before 2010-2012... > > > > Andrew. > > > > On 23 May 2014 18:34, George William Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair <w...@wllm.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection > >>>> Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community > >>>> and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all > >>>> of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor? > >>>> > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection > >>>> > >>>> Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining > >>>> to child protection that I might have missed? > >>>> > >>>> I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP > >>>> community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has > >>>> comments beyond links to current policy statements. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks! > >>>> ,Wil > >>> > >>> > >>> English Wikipedia policy: > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection > >>> > >>> The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated > debate > >>> since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form > >>> more or less documented existing practice at the time. > >>> > >>> Risker/Anne > >> > >> Right. > >> > >> I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be > implemented by most senior experienced admins. It documented existing very > poorly publicized informal practice in that regard. > >> > >> There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair, > reasonable, appropriate. > >> > >> As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding > to threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based > top down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting > what was actually being done most of the time and that settling is as > precedent. > >> > >> This is perhaps not the best process. However, even in the absence of > total community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior > community members will act to protect individual people and the community > and encyclopedia and foundation. It seems to be agreed that documenting > usual parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a > net positive. > >> > >> > >> -george william herbert > >> george.herb...@gmail.com > >> > >> Sent from Kangphone > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > -- > > - Andrew Gray > > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
