On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, at 10:53, Pete Forsyth wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM, svetlana <svetl...@fastmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, at 23:42, Romaine Wiki wrote:
> > > That the community reacts the way it does now, is because they care very
> > > much about the site and they notice something is terrible going wrong on
> > > WMF side and too less is done to fix those problems/issues!
> >
> > if the community was not so willing to use force (ie a js hack) against
> > the other party
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> You talk about admin accountability, Svetlana -- but what about
> accountability for the WMF, when it makes sweeping changes that (among
> other things) remove any suggestion of an "edit" functionality from "the
> encyclopedia anyone can edit" from millions and millions of pages?
> 
> Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]

Surely this issue can be solved by talking without force: if you don't think 
so, you get force applied to YOU; you started a fight, and lost it. Because you 
went and did something contradicting user preferences; WMF did not. You'd think 
it's "better" because it's "unchanged compared to what it was X months ago", 
and that justifies your thing? No, it does not.

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