This is why the "thanks" mechanism needs to work for IP edits too.

(I submit that the hazard that we might accidentally be nice to
someone we didn't mean to is not a sufficient threat to block this.)

On 26 August 2014 11:18, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> wrote:
> I agree with this wholeheartedly.  When I think back to when I was new on
> Wikipedia, pretty early on I got an honest-to-god personal message from
> someone to thank me for correcting a typo (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lankiveil&diff=5647166&oldid=5629943
> ).
>  It made me feel like this was a community of nice people that I wanted to
> collaborate on things with, and was probably instrumental in me sticking
> around.
>
> The editor retention problem will not be solved with technological gizmos
> and doodads, nor with top-down solutions imposed from above.  It will be
> solved with positive human contact and creating a collaborative community
> that people actually want to be a part of, rather than one that they put up
> with.  Template welcomes and messages that have all the warmth of a form
> letter enclosed in a utility bill won't make a lasting improvement in the
> long run.  The intention behind things like the "thank" button are great,
> but they should be seen as at most an enabler, rather than as the actual
> solution to our problems.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26 August 2014 10:09, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps the best way of doing this is the admittedly laborious method of
>> personally communicating with new editors who seem promising and
>> encouraging them and offering to help them continue. The key word in this
>> is "personally". It cannot be effectively done with  wikilove messages ,
>> and certainly not with anything that looks like a template. Template
>> welcomes are essentially in the same class as mail or web
>> "personalized"advertisements.  What works is to show that you actually read
>> and appreciated what they are doing, to the extent you wanted to write
>> something specific.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Wikimedia ch is doing a big investment in supporting communities.
>> >
>> > There are three community liaisons (a third hired recently) to support
>> the
>> > three national languages which are also within the biggest linguistic
>> > communities.
>> >
>> > Anyway there is not a unique solution to be adapted easily in user
>> > retention and recruiting because the world is varioius as it is the life.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Il 24/ago/2014 03:56 "James Salsman" <jsals...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> >
>> > > Is there a list somewhere of all currently active Foundation
>> > > initiatives for attracting and retaining active editors?  I am only
>> > > aware of the one project, "Task Recommendations," to try to encourage
>> > > editors who have made a few edits to make more, described starting at
>> > >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JbZ1uWoKEg&t=60m20s
>> > >
>> > > I am not worried about pageviews at all, given that the trend is as
>> > > constant as it has ever been when mobile users are added in to the
>> > > total. Sadly, the greater number of mobile users appears to be harming
>> > > active editor numbers beyond their already dismal trend, so it would
>> > > be nice to have an idea of exactly how much effort the Foundation is
>> > > applying to its only strategic goal which it is not achieved, and has
>> > > not ever achieved. I am amazed that so much more effort continues to
>> > > be applied to the other goals, all of which have always been met
>> > > through to the present. What does this state of affairs say about the
>> > > Foundation leadership's ability to prioritize?
>> > >
>> > > Is there any evidence at all that anyone in the Foundation is
>> > > interested in any kind of change which would make non-editors more
>> > > inclined to edit, or empower editors with social factors which might
>> > > provide more time, economic power, or other means to enable them to
>> > > edit more?
>> > >
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