How about starting a campaign to grow and develop the community around ?

*Edward Saperia*
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On 26 August 2014 13:03, svetlana <> wrote:

> Hi,
> David Goodman wrote:
> > Perhaps the best way of doing this is the admittedly laborious method of
> > personally communicating with new editors who seem promising and
> > encouraging them and offering to help them continue. The key word in this
> > is "personally". It cannot be effectively done with  wikilove messages ,
> > and certainly not with anything that looks like a template. Template
> > welcomes are essentially in the same class as mail or web
> > "personalized"advertisements.  What works is to show that you actually
> read
> > and appreciated what they are doing, to the extent you wanted to write
> > something specific.
> Thanks, I agree. I'm pretty passionate about making a difference in this
> area. I would personally go and start doing that /right now/, but the
> question remains open: Which activity should I engage in for all that to
> happen?
> - Look at recent edits and collaborate with new people? That's a most
> thankless item on this list, perhaps, as people edit more than anything
> else.
> - Look at newly created pages and collaborate on those with due care and
> attention to the new people? That'd be nice. (although imo the drafts
> process at English Wikipedia creates an unnecessary hierarchy -- I'd love
> to remain a peer and treat the newcomer as a source of wonderful knowledge,
> not as a reviewee or mentoree. For this reason, I might perhaps only do
> this to articles created in main namespace.)
> - I had written a script [2] which makes draft review things more personal
> by not using a template in review comments, but I couldn't figure out whom
> to approach to get it deployed, or how to prevent ugly [3] templates on
> talk pages of people who submitted a draft for review.
> - Reworking the welcome template into something else? Into what
> specifically?
> - There are other things I tried to do, such as leave simple short
> messages such as [4], but I have not been doing enough of them to figure
> out who likes them.
> - Many many examples, warning vandals for example, completely template
> thing, they get reborn as trolls, etc. see also [5]. But there is a need to
> not feed them still, i.e. put some effort into personal communication but
> not too much.
> - Figuring out how to provide IP contributors with more software, up to
> the point it's technically possible? ([1] lists some software limitations).
> - <add your thought here>
> How do I set priorities in such list? Where to start tackling the problem?
> svetlana
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]
> [4]
> [5]
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