Hoi, Please read this article by the Volkskrant (in the translation of your tools) and you see that a review by a judge can be extremely useful. It also shows that organisations like the NSA can and do lose.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/tech/rechter-zet-streep-door-bewaarplicht-voor-providers~a3896653/?utm_source=dailynewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign= Thanks, GerardM On 11 March 2015 at 11:28, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Sigh ... being spied upon by the AIVD is not fine. However, they have a > duty to Dutch people and the argument that the NSA is benign to > US-Americans "equally applies" to the AIVD. We do serve Wikimedia content > from Amsterdam. > > The notion that the AIVD is incompetent is based on what ? It is however > beside the point. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 11 March 2015 at 10:09, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 11 March 2015 at 08:37, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hoi, >> > The fact that law suits like this actually happen is a wonderful >> > improvement in and of itself. >> > >> > Our aim is to freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Free has many >> > meaning, one of them is free to share without consequences.It is not >> only >> > about free of cost.In the past we implemented https for the very reason >> > that we did not want eavesdropping on the content from our Wikis. >> >> >> Partially implemented https >> >> >> >> > I think >> > nobody ever suggested that we should not do this because of the cost. >> >> >> So for what reason wasn't it done? >> >> >> >> > The least it does >> > is make it obvious that the NSA is not behaving in a way that is >> conducive >> > to propagating democracy and its associated values in our world. It >> shames >> > the current practices and the donkey may sing. >> >> >> Being spied on by AIVD on the other hand is just fine. >> >> Seriously people if you aren't American pick your words with care. Your >> domestic agencies are either worse or activity incompetent. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>