I think most VPNs are tone deaf. ;)

Yes, in general I would like to see more respect from WMF for the
collective wisdom of the community and for the use of volunteer time.
Appointing a technical or content contributor to an executive role would be
a good thing IMO.

Pine


On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ...
>
> Tone deafness of the WMF, and thank my phone for silly spelling.
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You're talking to one now, and I know several others. Now speaking for
> me,
> > I would never want to be "VP of anything", and so I'm certainly not
> asking
> > this on my own behalf, but that's not necessarily true of everyone.
> >
> > Regardless, I'd at least like to see some preference given toward
> > volunteers who might apply and encouragement for them to do so if
> > qualified. There's been, to put it mildly, some tone deafness of the VPN
> in
> > dealing with the community, and though some of the people engaged in that
> > were indeed volunteers as well, I have no idea if that was actually their
> > idea. (I hope not.) Perhaps having some people who have been volunteers
> > actually in charge might help to bridge that disconnect.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Todd,
> >>
> >> I'm not speaking for WMF or Lila here, just repeating what I've heard in
> >> other circles: it's rare to find a software engineer or designer who's
> an
> >> experienced Wikimedia content contributor. More common, but still far
> from
> >> plentiful, are experienced engineers who've contributed to MediaWiki and
> >> other open source tech tools. Pinging Quim in case he can give us some
> >> demographics of Wikimedia's volunteer tech pool and whether he thinks it
> >> might be possible to find an engineering executive in that pool.
> >>
> >> Pine
> >>
> >> Pine
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Lila,
> >> >
> >> > Will any consideration be given toward selecting a new leader for the
> >> > engineering team who has been an active volunteer with a Wikimedia
> >> project
> >> > for some period of time?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Todd
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dear all,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I wanted to let you know that Damon Sicore’s last day with the WMF
> was
> >> > June
> >> > > 30th. Damon has served as the Vice President of Engineering and
> >> played a
> >> > > role in our strategic thinking as we retool to fulfill our mission
> of
> >> > > delivering free and open knowledge to the world. We wish him well.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Some of you may have questions about this transition and our plans
> for
> >> > > Engineering leadership. There’s a small FAQ attached below that
> should
> >> > > address some of the immediate questions about next steps. While I
> know
> >> > you
> >> > > may have additional questions, we can’t share more regarding
> personnel
> >> > > issues. Thank you for respecting that confidentiality.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ~~~~Lila
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. Why did Damon leave?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Damon’s departure is a personnel issue, so we are not able to
> comment
> >> on
> >> > > it. Thank you for respecting that confidentiality and Damon’s
> privacy.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. Who will manage Engineering and Technology?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Lila and our interim Chief Operating Officer Terry Gilbey will be
> >> sharing
> >> > > oversight for the Engineering and Technology teams at the C-level.
> >> > They'll
> >> > > work closely with the strong leadership of the audience verticals
> and
> >> > > individual teams. Lila, Terry, Katie Horn, Toby Negrin, Trevor
> >> Parscal,
> >> > Wes
> >> > > Moran, and the C-team are committed to doing our best to minimize
> >> > > disruption to your day-to-day work, and to support you during this
> >> > > transition.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. Who will guide Engineering decisions and set goals?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > The basic direction for the Engineering team is articulated in their
> >> > > approved Q1 goals. The team will continue to deliver on these
> >> > commitments.
> >> > > The audience team leads will meet regularly with Lila to ensure that
> >> > their
> >> > > work remains aligned with the WMF’s technical vision.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. What does this mean for the new Engineering and Technology
> >> department
> >> > > structure?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > The department structures for Engineering and Technology remain the
> >> same.
> >> > > The audience verticals reflect the emerging strategy, and we believe
> >> they
> >> > > remain the best way to organize the WMF’s teams, based on the work
> we
> >> > have
> >> > > ahead of us in the next few years.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. Will there be any additional department reorganization as part of
> >> > this?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > We’re not planning any additional organizational changes.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. What does this mean for the ongoing CTO search?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > We are already underway with the CTO search; this will continue as
> >> > planned.
> >> > > The CTO role is an important part of executing against the WMF’s
> >> > > engineering strategy. We look forward to bringing on board a new CTO
> >> with
> >> > > the leadership, perspective, and skills that the position entails.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Q. Will we recruit for a new Vice President of Engineering? What is
> >> the
> >> > > timeline?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Our priority will continue to be filling the CTO role. Once we have
> >> > > identified a CTO we’ll revisit the role of VPE, to ensure that the
> new
> >> > > CTO’s perspective is taken into consideration.
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