2015-07-31 19:54 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lih <andrew....@gmail.com>:

> FYI, for those interested in uploading to Commons, there was an interesting
> presentation at Wikimania about usability testing this.
>
> https://archive.org/details/videoeditserver-96
>
> The short answer to your very valid question -- licenses and copyright are
> complicated legal issues when it comes to media. That creeps over into
> usability in ways that are probably going to be very hard to solve.
>

I guess it adds complexity for sure, however it doesn't explains why we
still can't do
a proper image rotation or crop without hacking around JS or bots (which
makes things
complicated when the volunteer maintainer has enough of fixing is code due
to change
mediawiki).



>
> -Andrew
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Juan de Vojníkov <
> juandevojni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to ask, if the ease of media handling (images, photographs
> on
> > Wikimedia Commons) is a priority for Wikimedia Foundation? If not, could
> it
> > be a priority? Recently we have seen a big step done for editors =
> > VisualEditor. Contributors have no longer study "wikicode" to be able to
> > contribute. That removes one of the technological barriers and it looks
> its
> > a priority for WMF.
> >
> > While part of contributing to Wikipedia is still contributing by images.
> I
> > am from Wikimedia Czech republic. We run many projects based on media
> > harvest or organizing *low barrier media harvest activities* to bring new
> > users to Wikipedia.
> >
> >
> > As our newbies are not technologically skilled and not native English
> > speakers, there is a big technology block to contribute to Wikipedia with
> > ease:
> >
> > 1) there is no app for mobile phones and tablets for image upload
> >
> > 2) newbies are lost, when they click on "Upload image" and they are
> > transferred from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons
> >
> > 3) Wikimedia Commons is in English - foreign language for our
> participants
> >
> > 4) biggest language barrier are categories, which are in English only, we
> > need to insert name of the category in our mother tongue
> >
> > 5) Wikimedia Commons environment is still pretty "techy"
> >
> > 6) Insert metadata, takes a long time:
> >
> > e.g.: you have an image of a cathedral in Des Moines, IW. 3 or 4 times
> you
> > have to insert same information: a) to file name (*Des Moines,
> > cathedral.jpg*), b) to file description (*en:** Cathedral in Des Moines,
> > Iowa, USA*/*es:* *La catedral de XY en Des Moines, Iowa, EEUU*) and c) to
> > the category (*category:Des Moines* or *Churches in Des Moines*,
> > *category:Cathedrals
> > in Iowa*).
> >
> > Its 2015, there are many social projects around us. You can handle images
> > much easier on these projects than on mother of all social projects -
> > Wikipedia. Big step was done with using images allready present in
> Commons.
> > Could we do something for those, who contributes with their media to
> > Wikipedia? Could we do it in one or two years?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your concern!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Juandev
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