*Jan Ainali:* thx for the link, we will have a look on that. *Bahodir Mansurov:* that sounds great. Most of the people here use Android. We will deffinitely test it.
*Andrew Lih:* I havent catched the point. The presentation was about usability and how to run it. For image uploads we can run it just once or maybe 3 times (different target groups). I hope we dont have to run it in all countries and all languages to get some needs and be able to request developers to make changes into software?! If I understood well this team does not performed enough tests yet, so thats why they talk in general about Usability Testing? Or maybe I miss something, you are talking about licenses. I dont understand how licenses are related to this issue? *I am just guessing:* Foundation is afraid to use easy mobile app for upload, because people will massively break license? Is that a point? Did Commons colapsed with Instant Commons? Did we got some images, when Instant Commons was enabled in MW distribution? Juandev 2015-07-31 22:35 GMT+02:00 Pierre-Selim <pierre-se...@huard.info>: > 2015-07-31 19:54 GMT+02:00 Andrew Lih <andrew....@gmail.com>: > > > FYI, for those interested in uploading to Commons, there was an > interesting > > presentation at Wikimania about usability testing this. > > > > https://archive.org/details/videoeditserver-96 > > > > The short answer to your very valid question -- licenses and copyright > are > > complicated legal issues when it comes to media. That creeps over into > > usability in ways that are probably going to be very hard to solve. > > > > I guess it adds complexity for sure, however it doesn't explains why we > still can't do > a proper image rotation or crop without hacking around JS or bots (which > makes things > complicated when the volunteer maintainer has enough of fixing is code due > to change > mediawiki). > > > > > > > -Andrew > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Juan de Vojníkov < > > juandevojni...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would like to ask, if the ease of media handling (images, photographs > > on > > > Wikimedia Commons) is a priority for Wikimedia Foundation? If not, > could > > it > > > be a priority? Recently we have seen a big step done for editors = > > > VisualEditor. Contributors have no longer study "wikicode" to be able > to > > > contribute. That removes one of the technological barriers and it looks > > its > > > a priority for WMF. > > > > > > While part of contributing to Wikipedia is still contributing by > images. > > I > > > am from Wikimedia Czech republic. We run many projects based on media > > > harvest or organizing *low barrier media harvest activities* to bring > new > > > users to Wikipedia. > > > > > > > > > As our newbies are not technologically skilled and not native English > > > speakers, there is a big technology block to contribute to Wikipedia > with > > > ease: > > > > > > 1) there is no app for mobile phones and tablets for image upload > > > > > > 2) newbies are lost, when they click on "Upload image" and they are > > > transferred from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons > > > > > > 3) Wikimedia Commons is in English - foreign language for our > > participants > > > > > > 4) biggest language barrier are categories, which are in English only, > we > > > need to insert name of the category in our mother tongue > > > > > > 5) Wikimedia Commons environment is still pretty "techy" > > > > > > 6) Insert metadata, takes a long time: > > > > > > e.g.: you have an image of a cathedral in Des Moines, IW. 3 or 4 times > > you > > > have to insert same information: a) to file name (*Des Moines, > > > cathedral.jpg*), b) to file description (*en:** Cathedral in Des > Moines, > > > Iowa, USA*/*es:* *La catedral de XY en Des Moines, Iowa, EEUU*) and c) > to > > > the category (*category:Des Moines* or *Churches in Des Moines*, > > > *category:Cathedrals > > > in Iowa*). > > > > > > Its 2015, there are many social projects around us. You can handle > images > > > much easier on these projects than on mother of all social projects - > > > Wikipedia. Big step was done with using images allready present in > > Commons. > > > Could we do something for those, who contributes with their media to > > > Wikipedia? Could we do it in one or two years? > > > > > > Thank you very much for your concern! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Juandev > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimediaemail@example.com > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > Pierre-Selim > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>