I hate to say it, but a hijacked Steward account is considerably more
dangerous than a hijacked admin account. It's extremely unlikely to happen
- our stewards are probably more aware of maintaining account security than
just about any other group of users. However, stewards under their current
process could very well find themselves in a situation where a "community"
wants to do something, like change the (global) terms of use or the
(global) interpretation of copyright policy....at which point their current
rules put them smack in the middle of the global community and WMF board
that approved a global policy, and a local community that wants to have its
own.  It's not a fair situation for them to be in.

As well, there will always be a need for an ability to lock a problem page
to address technical problems (in fact, I'm pretty sure there was some code
to do that from the back door, and Superprotect is probably the prettied-up
interface so others can do it), and if there's a problem that serious it is
going to ahve to remain in a broader range of hands.

Risker/Anne

On 11 August 2015 at 17:27, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Most of the time, admins behave as we would hope. Occasionally they don't,
> and on English Wikipedia when that happens often enough or seriously enough
> in the opinion of Arbcom, the offending admins are desysopped. I think that
> for legally sensitive pages, we'd be concerned about the possibility of
> having wheel-warring administrators or hijacked admin accounts. The latter
> can happen to anyone. Restricting certain pages to being edited only by
> Stewards via superprotect would help to protect against the former.
> Generally speaking I agree that standard "full protection" is sufficient,
> and superprotect should only be invoked in rare cases. I would trust
> Stewards to implement Superprotect at the request of the community, or upon
> hearing good cause for doing so from WMF.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ricordisamoa <
> ricordisa...@openmailbox.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I trust administrators not to edit pages they shouldn't.
> >
> >
> > Il 11/08/2015 22:56, Risker ha scritto:
> >
> >> There are situations where not even the administrators of a particular
> >> community should be allowed to edit a page. A good example would be the
> >> pages that describe the copyright and licensing of Wikimedia products.
> >> Individual communities cannot change that (it applies globally), and
> >> individual administrators should not modify it. If there is a problem
> with
> >> translation, that needs to be brought to the attention of the WMF,
> because
> >> there may be a similar problem with translation elsewhere.
> >>
> >> There are also some examples currently being discussed on the Wikitech-L
> >> list that may require significantly elevated levels of protection above
> >> 'all administrators on Project ABC', although they may call for another
> >> level of protection that can be customizable to allowing a much smaller
> >> group or specific individuals to be the only editors.
> >>
> >> Risker/Anne
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11 August 2015 at 16:43, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> So far I know it has only be used once after the occasion, see:
> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superprotect
> >>>
> >>> If anyone knows another occasion, I would like to ask to report this
> >>> usage
> >>> at this talk page to keep an overview in future.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> Romaine
> >>>
> >>> 2015-08-11 20:28 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com
> >:
> >>>
> >>> Out of curiosity, was it ever used again after that initial action?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM Laurentius <laurentius.w...@gmail.com
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Il giorno mer, 12/08/2015 alle 01.11 +0900, Hong, Yongmin ha scritto:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> It has been a year (and a day) since the gerrit 153302 [1] has been
> >>>>>> merged
> >>>>>> and deployed to the dewiki.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> And it's high time it got removed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Laurentius
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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