On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > But at the same time, Wikidata is supposed to inform the Wikipedias, as a
> > central data repository. This creates a mismatch between Wikidata's
> "early
> > days -- anything goes, let's just get content in, we'll sort it out
> later"
> > attitude and the relatively mature Wikipedias where editors insist on
> > sources for any new content added.
> >
> > This out-of-synch-ness is a real problem if you want Wikipedias to
> actually
> > use Wikidata content. Wikipedians will not accept content generation
> models
> > that take Wikipedia back to its bad old days where you could write
> anything
> > you liked without a source to back it up.
>
>
> Andreas, I think there's an important piece you're missing (or at least not
> explicitly acknlowledging) here.
>
> Very few of the Wikipedias are "relatively mature." To the extent Wikidata
> is meant to help Wikipedia, I believe it is meant to help the less mature
> Wikipedias benefit from the more robust research into sources etc. that
> takes place at the big ones -- and help the big ones notice when they have
> out-of-sync information from one another, and make informed decisions about
> what to do about it.
>
> The analysis you offer here doesn't seem granular enough to capture this,
> and seems to miss the primary value of Wikidata when it comes to Wikipedia.
>
> Thoughts?
> Pete
>


Pete,

Yes, those are good points I missed.

Andreas
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