+ Footnotes.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Lila Tretikov <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > We plan to publish a blog tomorrow that addresses some of the questions > raised here and confusion in the press. To briefly address your questions > specifically, here is where we are today: the the grant allows us to pursue > strictly (1) -- a better Wiki search. In that, it supports testing of some > of our hypotheses on how to best do this. > > It is possible we could pursue (2) in the future (for example, integrating > a few specific ones such as OpenStreetMaps or Internet Archive). At some > point we have looked into (2+) -- adding broader knowledge sources, though > we didn't get into specifics there, and have since decided against > increasing the scope. I am not considering (3). Going after general > search engine traffic and users is inconsistent with our mission. Our focus > is on knowledge. > > > To be clear, search itself is only one aspect of the work of the Discovery > team. This team is also tasked with discovering how to better interconnect > our various formats of knowledge, thus amplifying the impact of our > volunteers' contributions. Only some of our knowledge is actually connected > and discoverable today, other is very hard to find. Search is a simple, > non-invasive point of entry into the Wikimedia knowledge ecosystem. > > I welcome and appreciate the feedback and support of members of our > Wikimedia movement. Collectively, our thinking evolves as we learn. We > will continue to make hypotheses, test them, and adjust our path > accordingly. > > Lila > > > > [1] Wikimedia specific: index all of Wikimedia's content and make that > easier for users of the sites to find > > [2] Wikimedia + selected others: like (1), but also allow some other > like-minded sources into the mix (limited, identified sources) > > [2+] Wikimedia + other knowledge > > [3] Google-scale: crawl and index everything (duckduckgo-like) all > content included (shops, goods, etc.) > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net > > wrote: > >> I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this Michael. Reading the >> documents >> I've seen, it seemed like (1) to me, but a lot of the assumptions seem to >> lean towards (3). If it is (1), then that is an entirely reasonable thing >> for the Foundation to be putting development effort into. The problem is >> that the statements in the grant documents are quite vague, and given the >> rest of the shenanigans that the WMF has been involved in lately, people >> are quite predictably jumping to the least flattering conclusion. >> >> Cheers, >> Craig >> >> On 16 February 2016 at 05:36, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote: >> >> > >> > > On 15 Feb 2016, at 17:10, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > Hoi, >> > > The notion that WMF should out google Google is stupid, certainly at >> that >> > > kind of money. >> > >> > I'm still confused about what kind of 'search engine' is actually being >> > proposed here. Is it: >> > 1) Wikimedia specific: index all of Wikimedia's content and make that >> > easier for users of the sites to find >> > 2) Wikimedia + selected others: like (1), but also allow some other >> > like-minded sources into the mix >> > 3) Google-scale: index everything (duckduckgo-like) >> > ... or somewhere on the scale between those points? >> > >> > A lot of people seem to be assuming (3), others are liking the idea of >> > (1), but (2) (or maybe (1) leading to (2)) might be closer to the >> reality? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Mike >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > > -- > Lila Tretikov > Wikimedia Foundation > > *“Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.”* > -- Lila Tretikov Wikimedia Foundation *“Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid.”* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
