Actually I went last year to a winter retreat in Plum Village, a mindfulness monastery in southern France, and the focus was cultivating civility (loving-kindness they call it) and inner peace. I thought, well, if besides of that one could contribute free knowledge here I would join right away :)
I wonder if I would be the only one :P Cheers, Micru On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > With vows of civility and NPOV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of Ed Saperia > Sent: Friday, 26 February 2016 10:51 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization > > A Wikimedia monastery! ^_^ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:39, David Cuenca Tudela <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying > > them cash. For instance another option could be to offer them a place > > to stay, food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs > > work, like workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it. > > > > Would it be an acceptable compromise? > > > > Regards, > > Micru > > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:49 AM, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Involving the foundation as a broker would corrupt the Foundation > >> altogether. It would in essence turn it into an advertising agency. > >> We're supposed to be different from Google. Google earns money by > >> letting itself be used as a medium for advertising. It at least hopes > to achieve this by > >> while not being evil, and succeeds reasonably well at the compromise. > >> > >> Wikipedia fortunately does not need to earn money, as ordinary people > >> freely give us more than enough for our needs, and can therefore > >> hope to achieve the positive good of providing objective information > >> on encyclopedic topics that people want to read about, not > >> information that other organizations want people to read. We have no > need to compromise. > >> > >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:15 PM, SarahSV <sarahsv.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter > >>> <pute...@mccme.ru> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> - Possibly POV will be compromised in paid articles. > >>>> - Unhealthy situation within the editing community. In the debates > >>>> with WMF staff when we disagreed, I always felt awkward, because > >>>> they were > >>> paid > >>>> arguing with me, and would do it until they convince me or I give > >>>> up, > >>> and I > >>>> was doing this in my free time, and got tired very quickly. I also > >>>> had > >>> very > >>>> unpleasant experiences interacting with some chapter people whose > >>>> only > >>> goal > >>>> was to keep their position. They did not care about the quality, > >>>> efficiency, anything, only about their personal good. And if > >>>> somebody defends their personal good, you know, thy usually win, > >>>> and the quality loses. Now, imagine there is a content dispute > >>>> between a user who is > >> paid > >>>> (and is afraid to lose the salary) and a user who is unpaid and > >>>> have to > >>> do > >>>> the same for free - I am sure a paid user will be way more persistent. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ​Yaroslav, we already have a lot of paid editors on the English > >>> Wikipedia. > >>> Some are Wikimedians in residence, and this has always been regarded > >>> as okay, though I believe they're expected not to edit articles > >>> about the institution that employs them. > >>> > >>> But we also have a lot of paid PR editing and obvious COI problems > >> because > >>> of that, as well as the problems you highlight (e.g. the paid editor > >> being > >>> more persistent). > >>> > >>> Introducing the Foundation as a broker between organizations that > >>> want articles and editors who want to write them would not solve all > >>> the problems you highlight, but it would remove the COI aspect. So > >>> my > >> thinking > >>> was that it would be better than the current situation. > >>> > >>> Sarah​ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Goodman > >> > >> DGG at the enWP > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > -- > > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7442 / Virus Database: 4537/11697 - Release Date: 02/26/16 > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
