Anne, This is not a question of employment standards – it's not about what these NDAs etc. should or shouldn't say. We are talking about publication of existing boilerplate agreements that are in routine use.
It's a question of transparency. When volunteers talk to staff, it's useful for them to have an accurate understanding of what staff can and can't talk about, in particular as some staff members have raised this as an issue. If preparing this for publication takes a month or two, because there are more pressing things to do right now, I have no problem with that. What isn't good is if the community is told in response to queries, "Yes, publishing the NDAs etc. is a reasonable idea", and those words just fade into the mist because the task has never been actioned and delegated. Perhaps we can agree on that. As Sarah says, a dedicated transparency officer within the community engagement department would be a great idea, because this is a community-facing issue. I'd be interested in hearing Maggie's views on that. Andreas On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Really, Andreas? You're complaining that the resigning ED didn't do this > and the one appointed less than 36 hours ago hasn't got around to it? > > This is not Maggie's responsibility - she is not responsible for employment > standards or expectations. That would be the VP Human Resources...who has > just resigned, too, and has yet to be replaced. > > Risker/Anne > > On 12 March 2016 at 21:09, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On March 1, Jimmy Wales wrote:[1] > > > > things like standard boilerplate language to be signed by > > > all employees doesn't strike me as something in and of itself to be > kept > > > private - there is a valid interest in showing that our policies are > > > fair and humane for employees, responsible in terms of the privacy of > > > personal information, etc. > > > > > > > Nothing appears to have happened since then – we seem to be no nearer to > > transparency about the non-disclosure agreements and non-disparagement > > clauses WMF staff have to sign than we were two weeks ago, when > discussion > > around this topic kicked off in another thread.[2] > > > > This seems to be a recurring (and daunting) pattern. People call for > > transparency about a particular issue. Eventually, someone in a > leadership > > position responds that yes, demands for transparency about this issue are > > quite reasonable, and in fact more transparency would be absolutely > > desirable. > > > > At this point, people relax, feeling they have been heard. The clamouring > > crowd disperses. But in fact, nothing happens, and the same questions > arise > > again some weeks, months, years down the line. > > > > Maggie, is this something your department could take on? It would be good > > to have one identified person at the Foundation who is responsible for > > tracking such queries and reporting back to the community, one way or the > > other. > > > > Andreas > > > > [1] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-March/082852.html > > [2] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/foundation/685183#685183 > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
