It is good that you keep such track of the commitment. It would be nice if that were done in a more constructive fashion.
You will often find me on your side when asking for more transparency. I do think that doing this in a more constructive way will be much more effective in the long run. Lodewijk Op dinsdag 22 maart 2016 heeft Fæ <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven: > Hi Lodewijk, thanks for stepping in to rationalize Jimmy Wales' > behaviour in the silence from WMF trustees or Jimmy. > > Last week Kolbe summarized the situation in an email as: > "Walking away rewards and encourages the strategy that Jimmy has > consciously > or unconsciously applied here: tell people that their questions are > justified, setting up an expectation that their queries will be looked > into, and then ignore any further questions. Give people something that > sounds like a promise, to pacify them, and then hope that everyone forgets. > .... > If Jimmy is not forthcoming on the above by John Vandenberg, I suggest we > start a public vote of no confidence for him, as we did for Arnnon. It has > gone on long enough." > > Jimmy made a commitment to publish by Monday and effectively halted > this discussion while we waited for Monday to come, and pass. > > It's nice to wrap things up with complements and pleasantries, however > when this is tried the questions still end up being forgotten, taken > on tangents or given strangely obfuscatory replies that never take the > issue head on and cherry pick at parts of the question. None of this > gives confidence in the self-governance or transparency commitments > from our "appointed" WMF board of trustees. > > Fae > > > On 22 March 2016 at 18:18, Lodewijk <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > Let me rephrase that for you: > > > > Hey Jimmy, thanks for this commitment. I would definitely be interested. > > Were you successful in getting clarity? > > > > If we all would spend a tiny bit more effort on how we ask things and > > argue, the last would be more pleasant and people would probably be more > > tempted to interact. > > > > Lodewijk > > > > Op dinsdag 22 maart 2016 heeft Fæ <[email protected] <javascript:;>> het > volgende > > geschreven: > > > >> It's now Tuesday, so presumably Jimmy Wales' commitment to publish > >> something by yesterday at the latest was met somewhere. > >> > >> Can anyone share a link to it? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Fae > >> > >> On 16 March 2016 at 17:58, Jimmy Wales <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > >> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > I think all will be clear by Monday. Maybe sooner, but I'm not > >> > promising any sooner. > >> > > >> > On 3/10/16 12:13 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:51 AM, SarahSV <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > >> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:42 PM, John Mark Vandenberg < > [email protected] <javascript:;> > >> <javascript:;>> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Are we still waiting for Jimmy to agree/reject to James' request to > >> >>>> release an email? > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes. Jimmy said on 28 February that he wanted to speak to others > about > >> >>> whether it was okay to release his 30 December 2015 email to James. > [1] > >> > >> -- > >> [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > -- > [email protected] <javascript:;> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] <javascript:;> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;> > ?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
