Hi Nataliia,

I'm not sure that I agree with you. The Board and Lila ignored some
inquiries that I made on Meta. Discussions on this mailing list seem to
attract at least as much good-faith participation as discussions on Meta. I
would suggest that inquiries could be made in either venue, and the Board
can simply acknowledge and collect them for action during the governance
review.

There are times when highly threaded discussions on wiki are easier to
follow than large quantities of entangled mailing list posts, but that is
an exception, and in any case I follow the philosophy of trying to meet
people where they are whenever reasonably feasible.

Thanks,

Pine

On Jul 26, 2016 02:18, "Nataliia Tymkiv" <ntym...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> As Christophe mentioned, BGC has discussed Board composition issue and
> decided that the best way is to wait for the results of the governance
> review.
> It was mentioned in the minutes, by the way [1]
>
> If you have relevant arguments and think that it would make sense for other
> people to be aware of these arguments, please, *discuss them on Meta*.
> Mailing lists are not very useful for things like that.
> There is a talk page for this [2]
>
> [1]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Minutes_07-08-2016#Board_structure
> [2]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_structure&action=edit&redlink=1
>
> Best regards,
> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, WereSpielChequers <
> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Pine has a point. We all know that the founder seat will go eventually.
> > Whether it goes on the death or incapacity of the founder or earlier is a
> > valid question for the board and the community. I'm not convinced that an
> > elections committee should be deciding which posts to elect, and even if
> > such governance issues do fall into its remit they should probably focus
> on
> > how to elect first. So I'd say this should be a board decision.
> >
> > As for the arguments to retain a founder seat for the next few decades, I
> > suggest that those who favour such a position try to couch their
> arguments
> > in terms of institutional knowledge, the value of an element of
> continuity
> > and the positives for the community to still retain such a link with our
> > founder. Then hope that the incidents of a few months ago fade in memory
> > and are not repeated. There is a case to be made for a founder seat, but
> as
> > with any argument in this community there are ways to argue respectfully
> > and effectively, and there are arguments that undermine your cause and
> > weaken your reputation.
> >
> >
> > WereSpielChequers
> >
> >
> > On 26 July 2016 at 06:39, <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org>
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> > > Hi BGC,
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> > > I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been
> > > overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether
> the
> > > Founder's seat will become an elected seat in the forseeable future?
> > >
> > > Pine
> > >
> > > On Jul 20, 2016 21:20, "Pine W" <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
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