I love that thread. Touchy topîc and yet an awesome discussion, Thank you
so much :D

A few month ago, little time after my election, I asked that question on
Facebook and provided my own answer. And yes, I do believe that saying
neutral knowledge should be freely accessible by everyone on the planet is
kind of a really really really really strong political statement.

I also think that "politic" discussion is hard to have as the word politics
can bare many different meaning. One of them is derived on how we use it
regarding national politics. We use politics as a word to include all
politics (economic, social, education, etc.). And political party, or a
political organization, will tend to adress all of them (or some).

That is not what we are talking about actually. To me, I mean politic as,
Asaf will love that, in latin (pertaining to public life). We are a
political organization, we stand for strong values, but we are not
political in the sense we're aligned with a specific party or candidate.
And I don't know about the US, but one thing I love with french wikimedian
is knowing some of them are so fare away from me on the political scale and
yet share values (if I had time I would love to explain how I believe this
is an exemple of why our political systems are broken ^^).

So in the end, to me, the question is where do we draw the line when it
comes to standing up for our values and, related questions, what are those
values we should stand up for?

But again, as a movement, we have the potential to have a huge impact on
the world. That is not neutral, that is a force of change and change always
is poltical.

Christophe HENNER
Chair of the board of trustees

twitter *@schiste*        skype *christophe_henner*

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 2:55 PM James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The question I have been trying to ask, going back years now in fact, is
> > whether "empower" refers to the political power to secure and retain
> > the freedoms necessary and sufficent to contribute to the mission, or
> > some other kind of power.
> >
> Well, it's your lucky day: you're finally getting an answer!
> WMF's de-facto interpretation of "empower" in the [[m:Mission]] does *not*
> include "political power to secure and retain the freedoms necessary and
> sufficient to contribute to the mission".
> We do not directly solve people's lacking infrastructure (except indirectly
> via partnerships like Wikipedia Zero), we do not provide computers to
> billions of people who don't have them, we do not teach literacy to the
> illiterate, we do not feed the poor so that they may contribute, and we do
> not declare war on North Korea to free its poor people from the awful
> tyranny they suffer under, to enable them to contribute.  The list goes on.
> The concrete ways WMF worked to "empower" have been providing and
> maintaining the main contribution platforms (the wikis), auxiliary
> platforms (Tool Labs, Quarry, PAWS, Wikidata Query, etc.), funding for
> *Wikimedia-related* activities via grants, programmatic resources and
> mentorship, funding and support for international gatherings of the active
> community, and a few other things.
> Your aspirational expansive interpretation (which includes paying editors
> to enable them to contribute, if memory serves) of "empower" has never been
> close to what WMF, under its various leaderships, ever considered
> appropriate.
> Now that your years-long query has an answer, perhaps you can stop asking.
>    A.
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