Victoria Thanks for that. As you may gather, I have not found that in the past those interactions all went well. But we can hope.
"Rogol" On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Victoria Coleman <vcole...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your question Rogol. So let me try and give you > my point of view on the essence of your question. The Tech department in > the Foundation, the TechCom and the volunteer developer community work to > support the movement and its people, from readers to contributors and > beyond. What this tech community overall works on is driven by the needs > of the movement. Some of these needs are purely technical. For example we > want to minimize latency for both readers and contributors so we spend a > lot of effort in understanding what causes latency and how to reduce it. > Other needs come from the need to build new features. An example of this > would be ORES and the scoring tool that many editors use. How do we collect > and prioritize these needs? In some cases through our own expertise, in > some cases by being part of the community , in others by doing research to > understand what works and yet in others by working closely with the > Audiences team in the Foundation. The Audiences team has the mandate to > deliver user facing features based on research and close interaction with > the community. The Community wishlist being a great example of that work. > The Community Engagement team through the Community Liaisons is another > great way for us to collect input for the community. > > I would of course also welcome your ideas and suggestions as well as > those of other members of the community for how we could better capture the > views and needs of our users and our contributors. > > Best regards, > > Victoria > > > > > On Jul 29, 2017, at 11:12 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Victoria > > > > Thanks you for your prompt and full reply. However, you describe how > > volunteer developers will interact with TechCom, but my question was > about > > the users across the world and the content contributors in the various > > projects, who will be using the products and services that WMF and the > > pther developers work on. I assume that TechCom will wish to understand > > the views of what those users and contributors want and need -- how will > > those be be taken into account? > > > > "Rogol" > > > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 4:48 AM, Victoria Coleman < > vcole...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Thank you Rogol. The primary way that the volunteer developer community > >> will interact with the TechCom is through the use of the RFC process as > was > >> the case with the ArchCom beforehand. The TechCom itself of course is > open > >> to the volunteer developer community for participation and since we are > >> expanding membership to cover a broader area of technologies that the > >> ArchCom was able to cover, there will be more opportunity to get > involved. > >> We are looking forward to that and as Daniel and I will be present at > >> Wikimania we will discuss the workings and goals of the new charter with > >> anyone who is interested. I would encourage you and anyone else who > wants > >> to know more to reach out to Daniel or myself to arrange to get > together. > >> For those who cannot attend Wikimania, we will host a webcast in the > next > >> few weeks to introduce the new committee and its charter and take > questions. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> > >> Victoria > >> > >> > >>> On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:17 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Victoria > >>> > >>> Thanks for that. I am sure we all welcome the new Committee. The > >>> description of its role mentions that it is "the guardian of the > >> integrity, > >>> consistency, stability and performance of the software supporting the > >>> Wikimedia projects", and its "authority on technical decisions > regarding > >>> any official software that serves Wikimedia users". Could you say > >>> something about how the Committee will work with the community in its > >>> various aspects to find out what forms of support and service the users > >> and > >>> contributors want and need? > >>> > >>> "Rogol" > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Victoria Coleman < > >> vcole...@wikimedia.org> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello All! > >>>> > >>>> Daniel and I would like to share some good news: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> After talking about it for years, and vetting the draft for months, > >>>> it's finally done: the Architecture Committee has adopted a proper > >> charter > >>>> defining its purpose, operation, and authority. > >>>> > >>>> You can find the charter here: > >>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Committee/Charter > < > >>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Committee/Charter > >> > >>>> > >>>> The charter among other things defines from where the committee draws > >> its > >>>> authority over technical development at the WMF: the committee acts as > >> an > >>>> extension of the CTO. This gives the committee a clear role in the > >>>> foundation's decision > >>>> making processes. > >>>> > >>>> The charter also clarifies the scope of TechCom: it is to act as an > >>>> authority on > >>>> technical decisions regarding any official software that serves > >> Wikimedia > >>>> users. > >>>> The committee should be involved in matters regarding such software > that > >>>> are > >>>> strategic, cross-cutting, or hard to undo. > >>>> > >>>> The committee has also given itself a new name, to better fit the > scope > >> as > >>>> defined in the charter: we are now the Wikimedia Technical Committee > >>>> (TechCom). > >>>> > >>>> Looking forward to working with the technical community to fulfill the > >>>> charter! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Victoria & Daniel > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >>>> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >>>> wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Wikimedia-l > >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
