N00bs are usually taught "public" has nothing to do with copyright ;)
Vito 2017-11-24 15:57 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > You deny the existence of copyright.. It being public does not mean that it > is fair game for any and all purposes. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 24 November 2017 at 14:39, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Archives are public, so, IMHO, the list is. > > > > Vito > > > > 2017-11-24 11:11 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < > > psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: > > > > > Saluton ĉiuj, > > > > > > Le 23/11/2017 à 20:54, Emeric Vallespi a écrit : > > > > > >> I think it was important to re-explain all those points so that the > > >> community, which is - again - unnecessarily taken as witness, is not > > >> deceived by a scenario built from scratch. > > >> Again, to discredit the movement by such erroneous but public > > accusations > > >> still shows that only personal interests and vainness matter in this > > >> conflict with some people. > > >> > > >> I seize the opportunity to ask: what is the legal status of the list? > Is > > > it considered public? > > > > > > I mean, it's easy to subscribe for anyone, but you still have to > > > subscribe. And as far as I know, accessing archives require to login. > Now > > > there are other website which make crawled archives publicly > accessible, > > > but just because some do that doesn't mean it's legal. > > > > > > Also I'm not aware of any license regarding posted emails, so plain > > > copyright probably apply, minus any exception related to epistolary > > > material that might exist. > > > > > > It might be interesting to make any post to our mailing list a free > > > licensed material. I've been thinking about that as I had the idea to > > > extensively analyse the wikidata-l mailling list and publish a side by > > side > > > statements and extracted keywords elements, but from a legal point of > > view > > > it is probably not feasible. That might be circumvented with links, or > > > providing a software which generate the expected table from provided > > > references, but anyway it's less practical than a straight published > > table. > > > Having this material published under a free license would make it far > > more > > > useful in any kind of study with such an extensive goal in its > > publication. > > > > > > Now, switching to a free license would not make the change retroactive, > > > but it would already cover new material. Also it should be possible to > > > contact most posters through their email and ask permission to release > > > their previous publications under one or more free licenses and change > > > archive metadata accordingly. > > > > > > Legale, > > > mathieu > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik > > > i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>