Hi Yaroslav, Thanks for explaining why you didn't answer. I agree with you, these kind of conversations can be *very* exausting, but in this case I am not looking for an argument, I am just trying to understand your position better. You formulated your standing against "regular paid editors not listening", but what about "people getting money to learn to listen"? Do you consider it to be the same? If so, why? And if not, what is wrong about it?
To me if there is harassment, or if you have felt harassed, it is a clear indication that we are not doing enough as a community to make feel everybody welcome. There are things we can do as individuals, and others as a community, but they require *a lot* of time and effort, and if admins cannot spend time on that, then nobody else can. @James, I agree with you that any change in the system should start at a small scale and be studied. But as mentioned before, for me it is not only about introducing money in the equation, it is about introducing it together with wisdom, only then the extrinsic motivation will not take over. To tackle burnout there is the idea of consultation teams from DBT (basically support groups for professionals): https://behavioraltech.org/resources/faqs/dbt-consultation-team/#team @Anders, you seem pretty concerned about bad editing, but I think every person should be free to decide where they want to put their effort. Some might find your goal important, but not all. If you go to Cape Town, please do discuss it there. Regards, Micru _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
