Hi all, I think these are good and relevant questions, but I'd suggest you keep the discussion where it's best placed – on the talk page of the Roles & Responsibility scoping document talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Roles_%26_Responsibilities#Role_of_the_AffCom
Paulo has already started a discussion over there. Kirill, it would be great if you could add your opinion and experience there as well. Best regards Cornelius On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 15:11, Kiril Simeonovski <[email protected]> wrote: > P.S. I would also like to add the other committees in the movement such > like the grantmaking committees. My first go would be the Board of Trustees > but it is better to see if someone who knows exactly can provide more > details. > > Best, > Kiril > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:03 PM Kiril Simeonovski < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Paulo, > > > > This is an excellent question. I am curious to find out that too. > > > > Best, > > Kiril > > > > On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:13 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Actually, I'm not familiar with this specific situation as well, apart > >> from > >> having been informed by my affiliate that WMF had informed it I was > under > >> some sanction that probably I was unaware of, related to affiliates I > was > >> not part of and episotes I do not took part. > >> > >> This is an outraging, appalling and unbelievable behavior from the > >> Wikimedia Foundation in general, and AffCom in particular. I really > would > >> like to get to the bottom of this, and more than have it reverted, I > >> actually want to know who planted the false information about me there > >> which led to this situation. > >> > >> I hope there is some way to effectively and officially demand and > internal > >> inquiry inside the Wikimedia Foundation over this situation. > >> > >> Best, > >> Paulo > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Benjamin Ikuta <[email protected]> escreveu no dia segunda, > >> 6/05/2019 > >> à(s) 10:20: > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I'm not familiar with this specific situation, but I agree that more > >> > transparency and accountability would be good. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On May 6, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta < > >> [email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hello, > >> > > > >> > > A few days ago the Wikimedia affiliate I belong to was officially > >> > informed, > >> > > by a WMF source, that I'm being subject to a until now unknown > >> sanction, > >> > > with an accusation from AffCom I can only describe as baseless and > >> > > fraudulent, relating to a a situation between two affiliates, dealt > >> with > >> > by > >> > > AffCom more than one year ago, of which I was never part of, > occurred > >> > more > >> > > than one year ago. I was never informed of this. > >> > > > >> > > This is not the first time AffCom engages in this sort of appalling > >> > > behavior. As far as I know, WMPT is still waiting for the > accusations > >> > made > >> > > by AffCom last year, which led to its suspension, to be > substantiated. > >> > > AffCom never substantiated anything related to that, with the excuse > >> of a > >> > > need for secrecy. > >> > > > >> > > How, I ask you all as members of the Movement, how come the > Wikimedia > >> > > Movement allowed for such a secretive, arbitrary, apparently > unchecked > >> > and > >> > > very much powerful institution to grow and thrive like this in its > >> > middle, > >> > > overseeing and effectively controlling the relation of all of us > (both > >> > > affiliates and individuals) and the WMF? > >> > > > >> > > More important than that, what can be done about this? Where one can > >> > appeal > >> > > to, when presented with such fraudulent, baseless, secretive, > >> > > unsubstantiated accusations by a body which was supposed to be above > >> all > >> > > suspicion? > >> > > > >> > > Can an internal inquiry be demanded somewhere at the Wikimedia > >> Foundation > >> > > over the activities and decisions of AffCom, in the same way we do > >> with > >> > > suspicious activity by checkusers and supervisors, with the > Ombudsman > >> > > Commission? > >> > > > >> > > Looking forward for any help and insight on this, > >> > > > >> > > Paulo - DarwIn > >> > > Wikimedia Portugal > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> > > New messages to: [email protected] > >> > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > >> , > >> > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> > New messages to: [email protected] > >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > >> > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> -- Cornelius Kibelka Internationale Beziehungen | International Relations Vorstandsteam | Office of the ED Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. 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