I can imagine a bot comparing photos found by Google (ie. comparing hashes) but not a system extracting some kind of unique feature that says an image is a copyright violation. So how do you imagine ORES being used for copyright violations? I can't see how a copyright violation would have any kind of feature that is exclusive? The argument is quite simple; I as a photographer for a newspaper could take the exact same pictures as I as an amateur photographer. (I have photographed a lot for various newspapers.) Using the same equipment, and me being me, what is different?
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:21 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores support for > images that might be copyright violation, or both. > > Best > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the amount of > > material it has to deal with. > > > > Cheers > > Yaroslav > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminik...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or capable to > > do > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit? > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all undeleted. > > > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing several > > GLAM-related > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page describing what it > > > is > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can create a > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them. > > > > > > > > See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships > > > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with Common's > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote you > > project > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do something > > > similar. > > > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders, but on the > > > other > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright violating > > files a > > > > day: > > > > > > > > See the list from just one day: > > > > > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01 > > > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to cope with > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and after some time - > > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the other > > issue > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents. > > > > > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads - screening > > uploads > > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles < > > > > thrapostibong...@gmail.com> napisał(a): > > > > > > > >> Hello all, > > > >> > > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons > > > components > > > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly > > > >> hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education > > > >> Newsletter > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions > > > >> > > > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project > > > >> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons > > > >> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects > > > and > > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. But some rather odd > > > remarks > > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded > > > copyrighted > > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't > > care." > > > >> and > > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for > > > >> images you intend to use on Wikipedia ". > > > >> > > > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute? > > > >> > > > >> Thrapostibongles > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > , > > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz > > > > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek > > > > http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > Amir (he/him) > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
