Hi all, I think that Tomasz and Paulo have made two excellent points. Firstly, Wikimedia Commons is a project on its own with a community that deserves full respect and not just a storage of files that acts as a cloud service to Wikipedia. Secondly, there is evident stagnation and even decline in the on-wiki communities on the account of the expansion of the off-wiki activities.
The problem here that almost all have pointed out is the enormous increase of content compared to the fairly stagnant community growth. My impression is that this is being allowed by the affiliates themselves when reaching out to new partners and massively adding content with unchecked licencing without caring much about the size of the on-wiki community that has to deal with it. So, an ideal scenario would be to see affiliates not only delivering new content but also contributing to community growth. As things stand, the content growth at the current rates will make things impossible to maintain by human hand, thus inviting the development of highly sophisticated technology that needs to be integrated at a very high price. In sum, the solution is either the development of new technology or instructing the affiliates to grow the community while engaging in collaborations that result in mass uploads. Best, Kiril On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:00 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wikimedia project communities in general seem to be quite stagnant, if not > declining, apart from Wikidata, which is and always will be a whole > different case. In the case of Commons it was already very much as it is > now when I joined in 2009. I always found it a very pleasant place, but > overtime I understood I was the exception there, and most people had bad > experiences. And it is as Yann has shown there, it's a few sysops running > the entire show almost alone, not because they want that, but because > nobody else helps with that. > > IMO the problem is not with the existing sysops, but because people in > general do not feel attracted to copyright and other similar minucious > stuff which marks everyday life in Commons. And, without that knowledge it > is pointless, if not counterproductive, to place a candidacy to sysop. No > idea what the solution could be, but it certainly is not blaming Commons > and the existing sysops. If more people was interested in copyright, less > mistakes would be happening in Commons as well. Whatever the solution is, > it probably passes by that. > > Best, > Paulo > > Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <galder...@hotmail.com> escreveu no dia segunda, > 13/05/2019 à(s) 07:09: > > > A good question to ask would be why the admin group is not growing. And > > maybe (maybe) we can find a common answer to both problems pointed here. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>