Benjamin There appear to be misconceptions about the CC licences in general. They may be free in the sense of no money changing hands but that does not mean they are free in the sense of being without conditions or restrictions. The CC-BY-SA licences that Wikipedia uses allow for use of material on certain conditions, including attribution. The NC licences impose additional conditions. But in either case conditions are imposed.
In passing, and more within the orbit of this discussion group, we may note that while there are conditions on the use of CC-BY-SA material, they are routinely violated. As has been noted previously, Amazon does not provide the attribution required when it reuses Wikipedia material via Alexa. Strictly speaking I suppose the remedy is in the hands of the individual volunteers as owners of the rights. It is regrettable that the Foundation has not chosen to support them in this. Thrapostibongles On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:22 AM Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Do you think it might be a common misconception, perhaps? > > > > On May 20, 2019, at 6:39 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulospern...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > The idea that NC is "open and free" is growing like a cancer in Brazil > and > > Portugal. I've been noticing that for some time already, and I do believe > > we as a Movement should have some sort of plan or strategy to fight that > - > > and never indulge in accepting NC as a valid license for the Wikimedia > > projects, as IMO it really hinders our mission of a free and open > project. > > > > Paulo > > > > Yury Bulka <setthemf...@privacyrequired.com> escreveu no dia segunda, > > 20/05/2019 à(s) 07:28: > > > >>> From: Mister Thrapostibongles <thrapostibong...@gmail.com> > >>> > >>> I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Firstly, this isn't the right > >> venue > >>> for a discussion of the general principle of non-commercial licensing, > >>> especially as the Foundation has decided on the use of licences that > >> permit > >>> commercial reuse. > >> In my opition it's not a terribly offtopic subject for this list, but > >> let my clarify that my intent is not to revisit the current licensing > >> policy of Wikimedia projects. > >> > >> I just thought that this could be useful to someone advocating for the > >> use of fully libre licenses (the ones without any non-commercial > >> clauses) outside Wikimedia projects, as it shows how the non-commercial > >> clause could be interpreted by some actors that have resources and > >> rights to go to court over your use of the work. > >> > >>> And secondly, there's nothing to prevent a rights owner > >>> from granting a full/libre licence if they want to for the works they > >> own: > >>> so why would one need to advocate for it, here or anywhere else? > >> Because many people think that non-commercial is good enough, for > >> instance MPs establishing laws touching Freedom of Panorama. > >> > >> Best, > >> Yury. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
