I share the time concerns that Pine and Todd addressed. But my larger concern is about the purpose of this next community conversation. You say that the core team will summarize the community input, and then the community will have a week to "suggest changes to the posted summary so that it accurately reflects their viewpoints". So it seems that while WMF wants to know how the community feels about the upcoming strategy document, it is not giving the community any say, at this point in the process, of the content of that document. So then why bother having another community conversation at this juncture? Why take up so much community time to develop responses to a document that will a priori not change based on those responses? That seems to be a textbook case of how to get dissatisfaction and disillusionment. Although I would prefer for the community to still have a say in things, if the sense is that the document really is done, maybe it should just be sent to the BOD now, saving 8 or more weeks of time. If the community conversation does go ahead, I think it is very important to make it very clear what will be and won't be done with the responses, allowing community members to make informed decisions about how much time and effort to devote to the conversation. It took a couple of read-throughs for me to realize that there will be a response summary and suggestions to that document, but no further round of revision.
Thanks, Paul At 2020-01-13 11:46 p, you wrote: I would tend to agree. This process has been ongoing for many months now, and the community raised substantial concerns about the initial proposals. Whether deliberate or not, allowing only a week for discussion of the final product seems an attempt to ram it through. Surely longer than a week can be allowed for discussion of such a critical item. Todd On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:25 PM Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Nicole, > > After reading this email, and taking into consideration a discussion that > happened during the January online meeting of United States Wikimedians, I > feel that the timeline here is aggressive and likely to result in problems. > In particular, giving the core team one week to review feedback and giving > the community one week to review the core team's summary seem risky at > best, even if everyone is communicating in English. When taking into > account the need for translations,my guess is that one week is an > impossibly short timeframe for quality work in these phases of the strategy > process. > > I suggesting adding at least one more week to the timeframe for the core > team to review feedback including translations of comments, and at least > three more weeks for conversations with the community regarding the core > team's summary. > > I am concerned that this process may be heading toward a rushed and chaotic > finish. > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > < mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org%3Fsubject=unsubscribe>> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, < mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe <wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org%3Fsubject=unsubscribe>> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>