There is something called [[WP:IDHT,]] i.e. I didn't hear that. No matter how many times, how many people (90% in the RFC) speak, I just didn't hear that. Kind regards, (Comment in personal capacity)
Thanks On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 00:15, Samir Elsharbaty <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > We wanted to follow up with a brief update on the project timeline and > share an invitation to join an event this month. > > We know there continues to be so much uncertainty in the world, so we are > slowing down the process of the project. Big changes are happening to all > of us these days. We want to make sure that we respect the time and > priorities of the project collaborators. This means updating the project > timeline approach to have more flexibility for participants and smaller > time commitments [1], revising the project schedule month by month and > keeping the Brand Network [2] and other participants informed on a more > regular basis with any updates and changes. The naming discussions planned > for April are now pushed to May, at the earliest. Design proposals are > likewise shifted +4 weeks. > > But we do have things to share: > > *This month: live brand concept presentation!* > > To honor, celebrate, and conclude the work around the concepts referred to > in Essie’s email above [3], Snohetta and the Brand Project team will > present the Unified Concept LIVE on 16 April, 15:00 - 16:00 GMT. Snøhetta > will explain how they used the ideas, feedback and conceptual models from > the workshops and online exercises to arrive at a final, unified concept. > This unified concept will be the foundation for the upcoming work around > the naming conventions, visual decisions, and the overall design system. > The session will also be recorded and made available for viewing after. You > can join us using these links. [4] Note: this is not a presentation of a > proposal for a naming convention or design. > > Thank you! > > Samir and the brand project team > > [1] > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Timeline > > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Brand_Network > > [3] https://brandingwikipedia.org/concepts/ > > [4] Join via Zoom: > > https://wikimedia.zoom.us/j/769565325 > > Steam via Youtube Live: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS72O6Si94Q > > Samir Elsharbaty (he/him) > > Community Brand and Marketing coordinator > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:32 AM David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The article itself is spammy brochure-style nonsense, and this is even > > after some cleanup. Editorial eyes welcomed. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sn%C3%B8hetta_(company) > > > > > > - d. > > > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 23:16, Samir Elsharbaty > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > The Brand Project Team felt it was important to address the concerns > and > > > questions around Snøhetta and the English Wikipedia, and have now added > > an > > > FAQ about it. [1] Please refer there for the full details about the > block > > > and what is being done. The project team is in the process of updating > > the > > > project materials, including the FAQ, so feel free to add those pages > to > > > your watchlist to stay up to date on the latest information. > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > [1] https://w.wiki/LEF > > > > > > Samir Elsharbaty (he/him) > > > > > > Community Brand and Marketing coordinator > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:43 AM Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > This does have feeling of a company creating a financial relationship > > with > > > > the Foundation as way to bypass or backdoor a community ban thats > been > > > > reviewed already. Over the years I've worked with many users who > been > > > > blocked and help them become productive contributors but before they > > start > > > > making recommendation or decisions about who we are there needs to be > > > > something done to get them back to good standing with the community > > first > > > > untiil thats taken place. It's like asking the fox to rebuild the > > hen > > > > house, I just dont see how I could support anything they recommend. > > > > > > > > After the dollars, and t=volunteer time that has been pumped into the > > 2030 > > > > strategy shouldnt we already know who we are, as it is that should > have > > > > been the key starting point for a strategy process. Its > comprehensible > > not > > > > to have known or explored that before deciding where, how, why we > will > > be > > > > doing anything for the next 10 years. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 03:20, David Gerard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Particularly as they've demonstrated by their actions an > > unwillingness > > > > > to work with Wikipedia properly: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive318#Review_of_User:Sn%C3%B8hettaAS_block_please > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 04:34, Peter Southwood > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I would agree with this in principle. From what I have seen so > > far, it > > > > > looks like either Snøhetta have not done their homework on how we > > > > operate, > > > > > or they have the arrogance of PR agencies, don't care, and plan to > > spin > > > > > their way through with smoke and mirrors, flashy pages with lots of > > buzz, > > > > > little content and all the dialogue they can't avoid. Maybe I am > > wrong, > > > > and > > > > > they have just been badly briefed. Who can tell from the outside? > > Block > > > > > evasion does not bode well for their understanding of the > community. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto: > [email protected]] > > On > > > > > Behalf Of Pine W > > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:13 PM > > > > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a > movement? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed > personally > > at > > > > > > you, Essie. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the > > > > > > community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of > > resources > > > > > > (all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project > > is a > > > > > > good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of the > > > > > > Wikiverse, and there are a some problems with WMF rebranding > > itself as > > > > > > the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities > and > > > > > > affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance problems, > > and > > > > > > occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't think > > that > > > > > > the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve > Snøhetta > > > > > > given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've > > been > > > > > > unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past > few > > > > > > months. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this > > program > > > > > > in its current form. > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending > > associated > > > > > > with it pending a Meta RfC regarding the community's view on > > whether > > > > > > this project should continue. If the community wants a branding > > > > > > project to continue, I would let the community decide on the > > project's > > > > > > parameters and budget, and what if any consultant should be > > involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pine > > > > > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > GN. > > > > > > > > *Power of Diverse Collaboration* > > > > *Sharing knowledge brings people together* > > > > Wikimania Bangkok 2021 > > > > August > > > > hosted by ESEAP > > > > > > > > Wikimania: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Gnangarra > > > > Noongarpedia: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/nys/Main_Page > > > > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
