Particularly as they've demonstrated by their actions an unwillingness to work with Wikipedia properly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive318#Review_of_User:Sn%C3%B8hettaAS_block_please - d. On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 04:34, Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > I would agree with this in principle. From what I have seen so far, it looks > like either Snøhetta have not done their homework on how we operate, or they > have the arrogance of PR agencies, don't care, and plan to spin their way > through with smoke and mirrors, flashy pages with lots of buzz, little > content and all the dialogue they can't avoid. Maybe I am wrong, and they > have just been badly briefed. Who can tell from the outside? Block evasion > does not bode well for their understanding of the community. > Cheers, > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf > Of Pine W > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:13 PM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brand Project: Who are we as a movement? > > Hello, > > First, a disclaimer that these comments aren't directed personally at > you, Essie. > > Even if money was unlimited, I thought that Snøhetta deserved the > community's trust, and I felt that WMF was a good steward of resources > (all of which are questionable), I don't think that this project is a > good idea. Wikidata is an increasingly important component of the > Wikiverse, and there are a some problems with WMF rebranding itself as > the Wikipedia Foundation including the risk to the communities and > affiliates from WMF's political adventures, governance problems, and > occasional high profile clashes with the community. I don't think that > the costs or the risks here make sense, I wouldn't involve Snøhetta > given its apparent block evasion on English Wikipedia, and I've been > unimpressed with WMF's handling of this process during the past few > months. > > I am fine with discussions about branding, but not with this program > in its current form. > > Given the choice, I would freeze this project and spending associated > with it pending a Meta RfC regarding the community's view on whether > this project should continue. If the community wants a branding > project to continue, I would let the community decide on the project's > parameters and budget, and what if any consultant should be involved. > > Pine > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
