Hi all, It’s worth remembering that this functionality is built in to Commons, it’s just not as user-friendly. From the example below, if you put "haswbstatement:P180=Q191931” into the Commons searchbox, you will get the same results. Thanks to the structured data on commons project+team!
Also, around half of the Commons categories now have multilingual labels embedded in them through the Wikidata Infobox, which means that if you do an ordinary search for a phrase in a different language, you should find the correct commons category if it exists. E.g., try searching for “Telescopio Lovell”, or "洛弗尔望远镜". The infobox also has a link at the bottom of it that you can click on to search depicts statements for that category’s topic without having to look up the QID first. Thanks, Mike > On 24 May 2020, at 10:30, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hoi, > Two more localisations became available, one for German and one for > Swedish. I have asked Alolita if she would help us with a localisation in > an Indian language. Anthere, would you be so kind and reach out so that we > have a localisation in an African language as well.. (French would also be > good to have :) ) > > In the mean time I have linked pictures of the kakapoa to its Wikidata > item, you can search for it in Maori. > > For me the point of this proof of concept is that we already can expose > material in any of our languages. We can make this available and promote > the addition of "depicts" statements in Commons and labels in Wikidata. In > a true Wiki way it brings additional functionality to any and all of our > users.. It will improve over time. > > When we are to know the extend of its usefulness, we need continuous > statistics (we have them for Reasonator as well, just as an example). > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 07:33, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hoi, >> Florence I totally agree that proper internatonalisation, localisation is >> key. What is key for me is that this already provides an easy and obvious >> search function for mediafiles that have a link to a Wikidata item. Just to >> stress the point, this is a wiki, we do not need a fully functional search >> engine (for all the Commons files); that is what we aspire to that is what >> we work towards.. That will take years. But with a proper search tool, a >> tool that makes it EASY to use Commons, it may fool me into using Commons >> for my blog. >> >> To show you that it works, I just looked for "baisikeli >> <https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/baisikeli#Swahili>" and made a screenshot >> [1]. The screenshot is with other files showing the evolution of this tool >> in a Commons category [2] >> >> Important to notice is that the tool DOES invite you to localise the >> labels to French, Swahili et al for best results!! >> >> A minor observation, there are all kinds of things that could change in >> the user interface. Key is that this is a prototype. It is showing us how >> we can make Commons work for us. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Appelmoes3.png >> [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hay%27s_SDSEARCH >> >> On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 01:21, Florence Devouard <anth...@anthere.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Le 24/05/2020 à 00:23, Erik Moeller a écrit : >>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:10 AM Gerard Meijssen >>>> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hay Kranen created a proof of concept where Commons is searched for >>>>> pictures that (per standard) use a "depicts" statement. >>>> This is a beautiful proof of concept; thank you for sharing it, >>>> Gerard, and thank you, Hay, for developing it. It really illustrates >>>> the power and importance of the Structured Data efforts. >>>> >>>> To pick a different example, imagine that you want to illustrate an >>>> article about the importance of wheelchair accessibility at your >>>> university. You might try a major search engine like Google Images. >>>> Try replacing the word "wheelchair" with translations in other >>>> languages. Note how the result sets are different, and how you may get >>>> a much smaller set of results in languages with a smaller Internet >>>> presence. >>>> >>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=wheelchair&tbm=isch (English) >>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=kitimaguru&tbm=isch (Swahili, far less >>>> relevant and smaller set) >>>> >>>> In contrast, the use of Wikidata items means that, as long as a label >>>> exists for a given language, you can search in _any_ language and get >>>> the same images: >>>> >>>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/sdsearch/#q=haswbstatement:P180=Q191931 >>>> >>>> The fact that the UI of this tool is currently English is an >>>> implementation detail; even with Hay's implementation, you can type in >>>> "kitimaguru" and get the same results as in English. >>> >>> >>> Sorry Erik, but I do not follow you here... >>> >>> For some reasons, it is true for "kitimaguru", but if I search for >>> "lamp" (EN) versus "lampe" (FR), or "key" (English) versus "clé" >>> (French), I really do not get the same results at all and of course, it >>> does not proposes me the same Qs. >>> >>> I love that functionality, do not get me wrong, I am delighted to see it. >>> >>> But except for English speakers (and now Dutch speakers it seems), it >>> can not be used. >>> >>> So wonderful proof of concept. But please... let's have all languages >>> here ! >>> >>> Florence >>> >>> >>>> >>>> It would be wonderful to see this functionality developed further, and >>>> to ultimately make this kind of search functionality central to the >>>> user experience for Wikimedia Commons, so that speakers of any >>>> language are given _meaningful_ access to freely reusable media. >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> >>>> Erik >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
