Yes one of the stronger reasons to reject all use of the NC license is that it increases incentives for other organizations to actually adopt open licenses. I simply wish that such a position would convince more organizations. WHO has repeatedly told me that we, as a non-profit, are already free to use their work and if we chose not to, that is on us.
James On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:19 PM Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi James :) > > (This is my last reply for today, given the recommended posting limit > on this list.) > > > We all agree that NC licenses are exceedingly poor due to the reasons > > listed, yet we leave a lot of useful content (such as Khan academy > videos) > > less accessible to our readers because we disallow any such use. > > I completely agree. I'm wondering if efforts have been made at the WMF > or chapter level to partner with these organizations on new > initiatives, where a more permissive license could be used? This could > perhaps help to introduce CC-BY-SA/CC-BY to orgs like Khan Academy, > and help lay the groundwork for potentially changing their default > license. > > > This is a balance between pragmatism and idealism. > > I disagree with your framing here. There are many pragmatic reasons to > want to build a knowledge commons with uniform expectations for how it > can be built upon and re-used. It's also pragmatic to be careful about > altering the incentive structure for contributors. Right now, > Wikimedia Commons hosts millions of contributions under permissive > licenses. How many of those folks would have chosen an "exceedingly > poor" (your words) option like NC, if that was available? And if a > nonfree carve-out is limited to organizations like Khan Academy, how > is such a carve-out fair and equitable to contributors who have, in > some cases, given up potential commercial revenue to contribute to > Wikimedia projects? > > If a license is "exceedingly poor" and harmful to the goals of the > free culture movement, incorporating more information under such terms > strikes me as neither idealistic nor pragmatic -- it would just be > short-sighted. > > Warmly, > Erik > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
