I apologize for my oversight of Galder and you, I forgot you both were trustees of Wikimedia Organizations.
Out of how many trustees and employee, 2 is infinitely more than 0 but still a way to low number imo -- Christophe On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 at 17:06, James Heilman via Wikimedia-l < [email protected]> wrote: > We as a movement have tons of ideas. A lack of ideas has never been our > problem. For example there is a group of us pushing for innovation around > video, but there has been plenty of pushback and hesitancy from many > corners. For example we built the ability to allow MP4 upload on Commons, > we developed universal consensus on Commons to allow MP4 upload, and now > the WMF appears to be dragging their feet with respect to concerns in part > that our technical infrastructure cannot handle MORE contributors. And this > despite our claim to be the central infrastructure of the open internet. > Meh. > > With respect to engagement of "trustees of any Wikimedia organizations", > I am here, Galder is here, among others. Christophe did you mean the WMF? > With respect to outside consultants, I agree they are generally not helpful > as it takes SOO long to get them up to speed. I have some of the same > concerns regarding turn over of top level management within movement > organizations. We are a complicated and unique movement that takes a long > time to figure out. > > J > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2026 at 12:51 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga via Wikimedia-l < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I totally agree with Amir here. I would add that the issue of low >> responses to Wikimedia-l, Telegram, Discord or Meta is not about people not >> having ideas: is about those that should implement the ideas they should be >> hearing. >> >> The last years have been a continuous risk-management communication >> process by those who should advance in our project, trying to explain why >> they were going in the opposite direction. >> >> We are getting older, and if discussions are dismissed, or even silenced, >> people are not going to spend their time on that, and younger members won't >> know that they can, indeed, discuss. Because, what's the point of this >> discussion if there's no one with real power to take notes and propose >> actions? >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Amir E. Aharoni via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 2, 2026 12:00 PM >> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia at 25: A Wake-Up Call (essay) >> >> >> בתאריך יום ה׳, 2 ביולי 2026 ב-12:32 מאת Yaroslav Blanter via >> Wikimedia-l <[email protected]>: >> >> You do not need people to generate ideas. I am sure a lot of ideas can be >> generated in an unstructured way onwiki. >> >> >> Yes, by people :) >> >> If you are referring to physical-space meetings, then yes—they are not >> absolutely necessary for generating. I do think that getting people >> together in a physical space to generate ideas can be better. The number of >> those meetings in 2019 was quite possibly excessive, however. >> >> >> They will be contradictory and will require some effort to select >> something useful. For this selection, one would need indeed a small >> committee or staff or may be both. >> >> >> It must be a committee of *Wikimedians*, trusted by the >> wider *Wikimedians* community, and without significant differences of >> privileges between committee members and other community members. >> >> It must not be a committee of external consultants. At least not too many >> of them. In 2019, there were definitely too many. >> >> >> To implement these ideas is a totally different story. I guess here is >> where you need people to be paid to work on. >> >> >> Of course, that's what I mean when I say that Wikimedians need money (and >> perhaps other resources) to get what they need implemented. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/NP4Y6SXY5ZLETU27FPHDPC56AWC5HC22/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/V2S6WKO4QGGLUEZDBS2GVTDLD5PHMDN5/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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