we'll be talking in a little less than two hours https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:This_is_not_a_meeting :)
-- Christophe On Fri, 3 Jul 2026 at 21:22, Christophe Henner <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm forking my original thread > > I love the discussion and energy so much that I'd like to offer a "meetup" > on the topic. I've created an event for next week, and to avoid endless > discussion on the call name: This is not a meeting: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Event:This_is_not_a_meeting on Tuesday > 19:00 UTC. > > I tried to strike a balance between structured enough to manage > expectations but open enough too. I've added a stub of an agenda, with a > goal to create a baseline on things there's agreement on, plus ideas, > suggestions, etc. to move forward. > > I would love to open the floor with 2 or 3 three-minute lightning talks > for people to present/share a view on the situation, so we can start the > discussion with a few statements. Anyone interested, just send me a message > or leave one on the Event talk page, I'll reach out. > > And then break into groups for people to talk about specific topics (I've > made proposals on the page, but they would benefit from other people's > insights to improve them). Then re-group for discussion, no more than 5 > minutes. And I've added a 42-minute overflow, so that if people want to > linger around, they can. But if people can't do more than an hour of > meeting, they can very easily leave the discussion. > > And that leaves us a few days to prepare and keep talking in writing. :) > > Now that the discussion has started, I'd like to quote a great philosopher > about something we'd like to avoid: "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, > after a second or so, nothing continued to happen." > Have all a great day :) > > -- > Christophe > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:10 AM Samuel Klein via Wikimedia-l < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Nada, excellent framing. It is entirely in our control to fix >> outreach, build welcoming and forgiving environments, make strides with >> less-resource languages and communities. >> >> Christophe, thanks again for persisting in this thread (and planning a >> range of activities around Wikimania!) I see many people engaged with >> these topics who don't want to engage in discussion about angst over >> current problems, but are deeply enthusiastic about, and actively engaged >> in, building new things / working on new possibilities. >> >> Brooke writes: >> > Wikimedia is a participatory system... We have to put in the work >> ourselves. >> >> Absolutely. The civilized netizen's first duty is to be always prepared >> to rewrite <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco> anything truly >> important from scratch. >> >> Galder writes: >> >>> One correction: I'm not a trustee! >>> >> >> But we surely trust you, including to make the world's best Txikipedia. >> >> We have many good ideas and talented people in the community. We do >> need persistent spaces to discuss and make plans, in part because in the >> last growth spurt we fragmented communication channels across hundreds of >> pages, sites, lists, and apps. Recombining many of those streams would be >> good for coherence and continuity. >> >> But our wikis are better suited to experimenting, reverting, and >> iterating than distilling large-scale consensus. Quick decisions by >> ~sortition (or by the first few people to turn up) help polish the roughest >> edges. Having spaces that push back against the iron law >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy> of oligarchy and >> preserve freedom to experiment is essential, even when simultaneously >> waiting for delayed consensus. >> >> Our strongest shared identity is as people committed to building >> freely-licensed knowledge together, in every language, accessible to the >> entire world. More people care about this today than ever before. We simply >> have to make space for it again. >> >> 𝐖♡, SJ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/RJV4EYFT53SYRNXZPOMP54CXTRGWLNB3/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > >
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