I'd prefer meeting during the day if that works. Wed and Thu night are booked for me. I could make it Tue night if necessary.
Are we bringing our laptops to this meeting, and doing a little dry run? What is the venue like - do we have our own quiet room, or is there typical bar activity to talk over or what? Is there a screen to display things on that everyone can see? Cheers, -Neal On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 04:47:40AM +0000, Kassondra Cloos wrote: > Thank you so much, everyone! Abhay, it would be awesome if you can make it up > from Colorado Springs. And Neal, thank you so much > for those links and for adding our event to the list. We still have quite a > bit of room, and we're planning to promote the event > this week through the publications we work for. > > I'll read up on the suggestions for edit-a-thons. We're asking people to > bring their own laptops to Sanitas, so everyone should be > registering on separate IP addresses, but we could also send people > instructions for signing up for usernames ahead of time if you > think that would be helpful. I just created one for myself and it's Klc17. > > I'm free every night this week except for tomorrow and Tuesday, and I could > also meet during the day if that would be better for > anyone. > > Maybe Wednesday would be a good night, and we could meet at Sanitas? > > Thanks again! I hope you all had a great weekend and I look forward to > meeting you soon! > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:23 PM Abhay Natu <asn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Within a 24-hour period, only six Wikipedia accounts can be created > via single IP address. If there's a chance you'll have > more than six new editors at your edit-a-thon, you'll want to have a plan > for how they'll create accounts. > > I am told that bureaucrats are exempt from this restriction. I have never > had to use this exemption as a 'crat on w:mr but I > suppose I can do that if needed. > > Abhay > > On Mar 19, 2017 10:17 PM, "Neal McBurnett" <n...@bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: > > Thanks folks! I'm back from a trip and catching up. I'm CCing the > Colorado user group email list. > > I've added the event to our local events page > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Boulder > > It might make sense to make a wikipedia page for the event also, like > we've done in the past. See e.g. https:// > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Colorado/Wiknic/2016 > > On wikipedia, my username is "nealmcb" > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nealmcb). > If you all share yours (or we make and sign up on a Wikipedia page) > it will be easier to coordinate things on wikipedia > itself. > > I also posted it to our Facebook page: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipedia.boulder/permalink/1080892208681814/ > > I suggest advertising widely. Having room for 35 sounds great. > > I'm pretty open for a planning meeting this week also. > > I also found this Boulder Art + Feminism event also, from March 8th: > > > http://events.colorado.edu/EventList.aspx?fromdate=2/27/2017&todate=3/12/2017&display=&type=public&eventidn=41148&view= > EventDetails&information_id=167749 > > Did anyone go to that? > > It lists Contact Information: Name: Jessica Brunecky Email: > jessica.brune...@colorado.edu > so she'd be a good one to touch base with! > > Finally, there is some organizing info at: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_run_an_edit-a-thon > > note in particular: > > Within a 24-hour period, only six Wikipedia accounts can be created > via single IP address. If there's a chance you'll have > more than six new editors at your edit-a-thon, you'll want to have a > plan for how they'll create accounts. > > They have tips for handling that, and also for advertising the event > on wikipedia, e.g. via the geographic software > notices. > > Cheers, > > Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 05:08:27AM +0000, Kassondra Cloos wrote: > > Thanks, Isarra! We would love to have you with us at Sanitas. I'm > around next week, too, and I'd love to meet up. My > schedule is > > pretty flexible. What works for you? Anyone else is welcome to > join, as well! > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:03 PM Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Isarra! > > > > Yes, this is in reference to the event at Sanitas. > > > > We are new to editing ourselves. > > > > We don't have a ton of people signed up at the point, but we > are ramping up our promo efforts now. Kassondra works > for SNEWS > > and I work for Mountain Project, so we are using those > platforms to spread the word. > > > > We would so love to have you! Thank you for offering! > > > > Abby > > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Isarra Yos > <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Okay, so to clarify, since I've only been sort of following > along: > > ☆ The event you mention at the start, that all of this is > about, is the Sanitas Brewery editathon, yes? > > ☆ Are you guys running this new to editing too, or is it > just that you want everyone involved up to speed ahead > of time > > so that the properly new folks are sure to get ideal > help? > > ☆ How are you getting the word out? Are enough people > signing up as-is, or should we be helping? > > > > I'm probably not the most knowledgeable about how to > actually edit well, being more a developer than an editor > myself, but > > the event certainly looks interesting and I'd love to come > get in the way. I mean, help. So if anyone else is > interested in > > meeting up next week, I should be around too, so just let > me know. > > > > -I > > > > > > On 14/03/17 03:43, Kassondra Cloos wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > We're coming up on the event Abby and I are hosting at > the end of the month, and I want to circle back on all > of this > > for some additional advice. > > > > Abby and I had a great talk with Jackie about the > editing event she hosted in New York. She had some really > useful > > insight for us on on the intricacies of writing and > editing on Wikipedia, and we realized there is a lot we > don't know. > > For example, we were both thinking we could give people > a list of women who need pages, and send them off to > start > > researching them, but Jackie mentioned that those > articles could get deleted by more senior editors if > they're written > > by folks just starting out. We want to make sure we're > setting people up with the knowledge and tools they > need to > > build up their experience and become lifelong editors > who will regularly add citations, and, hopefully, some > day write > > well-researched entries on important women as they see > needs. > > > > I think Pharos said you're all based in the Boulder > area? If so, we'd love to meet up with one (or all!) of > you to > > learn how we can be a useful resource for the folks > attending our event in two weeks. Abby is out of town > right now, > > but I believe she's coming back next week. My schedule > is completely open then, and I'm also available this > weekend if > > that works best for anyone. We'd love a bit of a primer > on how to get started as editors, and a run-through > of the > > system so that we can give accurate advice during our > event. > > > > Also, if any of you are interested in joining us at > Sanitas for our "Outdoor Women of Wikipedia" event, we'd > love to > > have you all! Jackie mentioned that Erika was an > incredible--and necessary--resource for her event, and we > will > > certainly take all the help and expertise we can get. > > > > Thank you so much, everyone, and I hope you all had a > wonderful weekend! > > > > Best, > > Kassondra > > > > P.S. Apologies if I've left someone out here! This > chain grew pretty quickly and I thought it would be > simpler to reach > > out to the Colorado folks directly, but please feel > free to pass this message along to anyone else in the > Wiki > > community. > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Abigail Wise > <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Yes to the 3:30 call tomorrow. > > > > We'll be at Sanitas Brewery on March 26 from 4-6pm. > One thing to note: We probably don't want to spread > the word > > too widely as we have to cap the guest list at 35. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Abby > > [t]ᐧ > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Neal McBurnett > <n...@bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: > > > > Thanks folks! > > > > I got in the conversation late. What is the > time / place / venue / plan you have in mind? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Neal McBurnett > http://neal.mcburnett.org/ > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 01:27:08AM +0000, > Jackie Snow wrote: > > > 3:30/5:30 sounds great for me. And definitely > starting with me and figuring out where you are in > the process > > and what help you need > > > sounds like a plan. Feel free to break us off > into another thread if you set up a conference line > (otherwise > > I'll just expect a > > > ring!). > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM Kassondra > Cloos <kassondracl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in my response! Thank > you so much for connecting us to so many resources > and people > > willing to help. Abby > > > and Jackie, Wednesday at 3 or 4 MT works > for me, too--let's say 3:30? I'm happy to set up a > conference > > line and send you the > > > call-in number. > > > > > > Richard, we weren't planning this in > conjunction with the Art + Feminism campaign, because we > hadn't > > realized that was > > > happening. I'm so glad to hear there's a > larger movement. Our edit-a-thon sounds like it's > aligned with > > the campaign, and I > > > don't see any events on that list yet > that are in Boulder. > > > > > > One slight variation is that we have been > planning to put an outdoor spin on this event, since > we live in > > a community full of > > > adventure writers and people who work in > the outdoor industry. We have started a list of women > who fit > > this category and are > > > not yet recognized on Wikipedia. Beyond > that, we have picked a date, time, and venue, but have > not yet > > started spreading the > > > word. Jackie, I'm really looking forward > to hearing how you got people excited about this and > dedicated > > to following through at > > > HGF's event. Perhaps we should start > there and then we'll circle back with the rest of you on > any > > questions we may have? > > > > > > Neal, Isarra, Clif, and Abhay, it's nice > to meet you! Do you know of any similar edit-a-thons > happening > > in Boulder in the > > > coming month that might be in the early > stages, like ours is? > > > > > > Thank you so much, everyone! > > > Kassondra > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:55 PM Pharos > <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to introduce you to Neal, > Isarra, Clif and Abhay, who are all I think more or less > > Boulder-based. > > > > > > Is your edit-a-thon part of the > Art+Feminism campaign in March, or does it have another > focus? > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Richard > > > (User:Pharos) > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:11 PM, > Jackie Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > That would be 5pm my time so 3 > p.m. MT or even 4 would be fine. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:26 AM > Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks so much for all of > this helpful information, Erika and Jackie! And nice to > connect > > with you, Richard! > > > > > > Jackie, if we'd still like to > hop on a call, Wednesday works well for me, too, but > it would > > need to be after 3 p.m. > > > MT. Kassondra, I know you are > traveling this weekend, so let us know when you're > available > > when you get back to > > > email! > > > > > > Thanks again, everyone, > > > > > > Abby > > > [t]ᐧ > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:34 > PM, Erika Herzog <erika_her...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > > > > Apologies for delay in > responding. > > > > > > I think there's a Meetup > group in Boulder -- you might be able to reach out to > some of > > the people who attend > > > and/or organize the > events: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Boulder > > > > > > And this Facebook group: > > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipedia.boulder > > > > > > And a Wiki mailing list: > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/Wikimedia-US-CO > > > > > > > > > I suspect you might > already know about these. > > > > > > I'm cc'ing Richard, WM > NYC's President, who has a great network of people > knowledge > > within the Wikimedia / > > > Wikipedia community -- he > might be able to provide more specific connection > info. > > > > > > Is your editathon part of > Art+Feminism? They have a coordinator now, and I'm > sure might > > have some collective > > > materials and might be > able to provide assistance. > > > > > > > > > If I can skillshare or > help at all, let me know. I provide administrative > assistance to a > > lot of different > > > initiatives on Wikipedia > and if I can help would be happy to do so. > > > > > > Might be helpful to have > more specifics / details about the editathon, etc. :-) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > - Erika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erika Herzog > > > erika_her...@yahoo.com > > > erika.her...@gmail.com > > > +1-212-749-9601 (cell and > home) > > > > > > > > > > > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > > From: Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> > > > To: Jackie Snow > <jaclynr...@gmail.com>; Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: Erika Herzog > <erika_her...@yahoo.com> > > > Sent: Friday, February > 17, 2017 10:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: Boulder Wiki > event > > > > > > Thank you, Jackie! > > > > > > I'm copying Abby Wise > here, who is co-hosting the Boulder edit-a-thon. I'll be > out of > > town for the next few > > > days, but my schedule is > pretty flexible next week. I'd love to find a time we > can all > > talk together. We're > > > really excited about > this! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at > 7:43 AM, Jackie Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > So cool about your > event. I'd be happy to hop on a call for any questions. > I'm > > connecting you to Erika > > > here, who is part of > Wikimedia NYC and the event would have been impossible > without > > her help and knowledge. > > > Erika, Kassondra got > in touch with HGF and is planning their own > edit-a-thon in > > Boulder for next month. Is > > > there a Wikimedia > chapter out there? > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Abigail Wise > > > > > > Senior Editor | REI's > Adventure Projects > > > Reported Features Contributor > | Romper > > > www.abigailwise.com > > > @abigailwise > > > (651) 324-7341 > > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Abigail Wise > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure Projects > > Reported Features Contributor | Romper > > www.abigailwise.com > > @abigailwise > > (651) 324-7341 > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kassondra Cloos > > @kassondracloos > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Abigail Wise > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure Projects > > Reported Features Contributor | Romper > > www.abigailwise.com > > @abigailwise > > (651) 324-7341 > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > -- > > Kassondra Cloos > > @kassondracloos > > kassondracloos.com > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 02:06:46AM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote: > > Yeah, we could totally meet for coffee or whatever somewhere on > Broadway or Pearl street during the week, if that sounds > good. I'm > > free pretty much any day but tuesday. > > > > I've also CCed Todd Allen, as he's a much more active user with > content, and Wikipedia specifically, than I am, so if > he'd have > > time to read back on this and join in, maybe he'd also be able to > help? Or if anyone else would care to weigh in, please > do - I > > will do what I can, but the more folks who know what they're doing, > the better. > > > > -I > > > > On 17/03/17 05:08, Kassondra Cloos wrote: > > > > Thanks, Isarra! We would love to have you with us at Sanitas. > I'm around next week, too, and I'd love to meet up. My > schedule > > is pretty flexible. What works for you? Anyone else is welcome > to join, as well! > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:03 PM Abigail Wise > <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Isarra! > > > > Yes, this is in reference to the event at Sanitas. > > > > We are new to editing ourselves. > > > > We don't have a ton of people signed up at the point, but > we are ramping up our promo efforts now. Kassondra > works for > > SNEWS and I work for Mountain Project, so we are using > those platforms to spread the word. > > > > We would so love to have you! Thank you for offering! > > > > Abby > > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Isarra Yos > <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Okay, so to clarify, since I've only been sort of > following along: > > ○ The event you mention at the start, that all of > this is about, is the Sanitas Brewery editathon, yes? > > ○ Are you guys running this new to editing too, or is > it just that you want everyone involved up to speed > ahead of > > time so that the properly new folks are sure to get > ideal help? > > ○ How are you getting the word out? Are enough people > signing up as-is, or should we be helping? > > > > I'm probably not the most knowledgeable about how to > actually edit well, being more a developer than an > editor myself, > > but the event certainly looks interesting and I'd love > to come get in the way. I mean, help. So if anyone > else is > > interested in meeting up next week, I should be around > too, so just let me know. > > > > -I > > > > > > On 14/03/17 03:43, Kassondra Cloos wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > We're coming up on the event Abby and I are hosting > at the end of the month, and I want to circle back on > all of > > this for some additional advice. > > > > Abby and I had a great talk with Jackie about the > editing event she hosted in New York. She had some > really useful > > insight for us on on the intricacies of writing and > editing on Wikipedia, and we realized there is a lot > we don't > > know. For example, we were both thinking we could > give people a list of women who need pages, and send > them off to > > start researching them, but Jackie mentioned that > those articles could get deleted by more senior editors > if > > they're written by folks just starting out. We want > to make sure we're setting people up with the > knowledge and > > tools they need to build up their experience and > become lifelong editors who will regularly add > citations, and, > > hopefully, some day write well-researched entries > on important women as they see needs. > > > > I think Pharos said you're all based in the Boulder > area? If so, we'd love to meet up with one (or all!) > of you to > > learn how we can be a useful resource for the folks > attending our event in two weeks. Abby is out of town > right > > now, but I believe she's coming back next week. My > schedule is completely open then, and I'm also > available this > > weekend if that works best for anyone. We'd love a > bit of a primer on how to get started as editors, and > a > > run-through of the system so that we can give > accurate advice during our event. > > > > Also, if any of you are interested in joining us at > Sanitas for our "Outdoor Women of Wikipedia" event, > we'd love > > to have you all! Jackie mentioned that Erika was an > incredible--and necessary--resource for her event, > and we will > > certainly take all the help and expertise we can > get. > > > > Thank you so much, everyone, and I hope you all had > a wonderful weekend! > > > > Best, > > Kassondra > > > > P.S. Apologies if I've left someone out here! This > chain grew pretty quickly and I thought it would be > simpler to > > reach out to the Colorado folks directly, but > please feel free to pass this message along to anyone else > in the > > Wiki community. > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Abigail Wise > <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Yes to the 3:30 call tomorrow. > > > > We'll be at Sanitas Brewery on March 26 from > 4-6pm. One thing to note: We probably don't want to > spread the > > word too widely as we have to cap the guest > list at 35. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Abby > > [t]ᐧ > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Neal McBurnett > <n...@bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: > > > > Thanks folks! > > > > I got in the conversation late. What is > the time / place / venue / plan you have in mind? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Neal McBurnett > http://neal.mcburnett.org/ > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 01:27:08AM +0000, > Jackie Snow wrote: > > > 3:30/5:30 sounds great for me. And > definitely starting with me and figuring out where you are > in the > > process and what help you need > > > sounds like a plan. Feel free to break us > off into another thread if you set up a conference > line > > (otherwise I'll just expect a > > > ring!). > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM Kassondra > Cloos <kassondracl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in my response! > Thank you so much for connecting us to so many > resources and > > people willing to help. Abby > > > and Jackie, Wednesday at 3 or 4 MT > works for me, too--let's say 3:30? I'm happy to set up a > > conference line and send you the > > > call-in number. > > > > > > Richard, we weren't planning this in > conjunction with the Art + Feminism campaign, because > we hadn't > > realized that was > > > happening. I'm so glad to hear > there's a larger movement. Our edit-a-thon sounds like it's > aligned > > with the campaign, and I > > > don't see any events on that list yet > that are in Boulder. > > > > > > One slight variation is that we have > been planning to put an outdoor spin on this event, > since we > > live in a community full of > > > adventure writers and people who work > in the outdoor industry. We have started a list of > women who > > fit this category and are > > > not yet recognized on Wikipedia. > Beyond that, we have picked a date, time, and venue, but > have not > > yet started spreading the > > > word. Jackie, I'm really looking > forward to hearing how you got people excited about this > and > > dedicated to following through at > > > HGF's event. Perhaps we should start > there and then we'll circle back with the rest of you > on any > > questions we may have? > > > > > > Neal, Isarra, Clif, and Abhay, it's > nice to meet you! Do you know of any similar > edit-a-thons > > happening in Boulder in the > > > coming month that might be in the > early stages, like ours is? > > > > > > Thank you so much, everyone! > > > Kassondra > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:55 PM > Pharos <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to introduce you to > Neal, Isarra, Clif and Abhay, who are all I think more or > less > > Boulder-based. > > > > > > Is your edit-a-thon part of the > Art+Feminism campaign in March, or does it have another > focus? > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Richard > > > (User:Pharos) > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:11 PM, > Jackie Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > That would be 5pm my time so > 3 p.m. MT or even 4 would be fine. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:26 > AM Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks so much for all of > this helpful information, Erika and Jackie! And nice > to connect > > with you, Richard! > > > > > > Jackie, if we'd still > like to hop on a call, Wednesday works well for me, too, > but it > > would need to be after 3 p.m. > > > MT. Kassondra, I know you > are traveling this weekend, so let us know when > you're > > available when you get back to > > > email! > > > > > > Thanks again, everyone, > > > > > > Abby > > > [t]ᐧ > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at > 12:34 PM, Erika Herzog <erika_her...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > > > > Apologies for delay > in responding. > > > > > > I think there's a > Meetup group in Boulder -- you might be able to reach out > to some > > of the people who attend > > > and/or organize the > events: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Boulder > > > > > > And this Facebook > group: > > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipedia.boulder > > > > > > And a Wiki mailing > list: > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/Wikimedia-US-CO > > > > > > > > > I suspect you might > already know about these. > > > > > > I'm cc'ing Richard, > WM NYC's President, who has a great network of people > knowledge > > within the Wikimedia / > > > Wikipedia community > -- he might be able to provide more specific connection > info. > > > > > > Is your editathon > part of Art+Feminism? They have a coordinator now, and > I'm sure > > might have some collective > > > materials and might > be able to provide assistance. > > > > > > > > > If I can skillshare > or help at all, let me know. I provide administrative > assistance > > to a lot of different > > > initiatives on > Wikipedia and if I can help would be happy to do so. > > > > > > Might be helpful to > have more specifics / details about the editathon, etc. > :-) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > - Erika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erika Herzog > > > erika_her...@yahoo.com > > > erika.her...@gmail.com > > > +1-212-749-9601 (cell > and home) > > > > > > > > > > > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > > From: Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> > > > To: Jackie Snow > <jaclynr...@gmail.com>; Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: Erika Herzog > <erika_her...@yahoo.com> > > > Sent: Friday, > February 17, 2017 10:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: Boulder > Wiki event > > > > > > Thank you, Jackie! > > > > > > I'm copying Abby Wise > here, who is co-hosting the Boulder edit-a-thon. I'll > be out of > > town for the next few > > > days, but my schedule > is pretty flexible next week. I'd love to find a time > we can > > all talk together. We're > > > really excited about > this! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 > at 7:43 AM, Jackie Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > So cool about > your event. I'd be happy to hop on a call for any > questions. I'm > > connecting you to Erika > > > here, who is part > of Wikimedia NYC and the event would have been > impossible > > without her help and knowledge. > > > Erika, Kassondra > got in touch with HGF and is planning their own > edit-a-thon in > > Boulder for next month. Is > > > there a Wikimedia > chapter out there? > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Abigail Wise > > > > > > Senior Editor | REI's > Adventure Projects > > > Reported Features > Contributor | Romper > > > www.abigailwise.com > > > @abigailwise > > > (651) 324-7341 > > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Abigail Wise > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure Projects > > Reported Features Contributor | Romper > > www.abigailwise.com > > @abigailwise > > (651) 324-7341 > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kassondra Cloos > > @kassondracloos > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Abigail Wise > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure Projects > > Reported Features Contributor | Romper > > www.abigailwise.com > > @abigailwise > > (651) 324-7341 > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > -- > > Kassondra Cloos > > @kassondracloos > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 08:11:07PM -0600, Abhay Natu wrote: > > I meant to send this to you all it ended up only sending it to > Kassondra. My apologies. > > > > Abhay > > p.s. I hope those of you in the Boulder area are unaffected by the > wildfire! > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I would love to join you on the 26th 4-6 pm. I am in Colorado > Springs so it's a bit of a drive but I'll try to be there. > > As a background, I am not a big editor on English Wikipedia but I > do have prolific (if I may say so myself) editing on > Marathi > > Wikipedia. I'm also an admin and a 'crat there. > > I'm hoping to hook into offline activities in Colorado and try to > grow it all over the state. > > > > Thank you for putting this together! > > > > Hope to see you soon. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Abhay > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > We're coming up on the event Abby and I are hosting at the end > of the month, and I want to circle back on all of this > for some > > additional advice. > > > > Abby and I had a great talk with Jackie about the editing event > she hosted in New York. She had some really useful > insight for > > us on on the intricacies of writing and editing on Wikipedia, > and we realized there is a lot we don't know. For > example, we > > were both thinking we could give people a list of women who > need pages, and send them off to start researching them, > but Jackie > > mentioned that those articles could get deleted by more senior > editors if they're written by folks just starting out. > We want > > to make sure we're setting people up with the knowledge and > tools they need to build up their experience and become > lifelong > > editors who will regularly add citations, and, hopefully, some > day write well-researched entries on important women > as they see > > needs. > > > > I think Pharos said you're all based in the Boulder area? If > so, we'd love to meet up with one (or all!) of you to > learn how we > > can be a useful resource for the folks attending our event in > two weeks. Abby is out of town right now, but I believe > she's > > coming back next week. My schedule is completely open then, and > I'm also available this weekend if that works best > for anyone. > > We'd love a bit of a primer on how to get started as editors, > and a run-through of the system so that we can give > accurate > > advice during our event. > > > > Also, if any of you are interested in joining us at Sanitas for > our "Outdoor Women of Wikipedia" event, we'd love to > have you > > all! Jackie mentioned that Erika was an incredible--and > necessary--resource for her event, and we will certainly take > all the > > help and expertise we can get. > > > > Thank you so much, everyone, and I hope you all had a wonderful > weekend! > > > > Best, > > Kassondra > > > > P.S. Apologies if I've left someone out here! This chain grew > pretty quickly and I thought it would be simpler to > reach out to > > the Colorado folks directly, but please feel free to pass this > message along to anyone else in the Wiki community. > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Abigail Wise > <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Yes to the 3:30 call tomorrow. > > > > We'll be at Sanitas Brewery on March 26 from 4-6pm. One > thing to note: We probably don't want to spread the word > too widely > > as we have to cap the guest list at 35. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Abby > > [t]ᐧ > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Neal McBurnett > <n...@bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: > > > > Thanks folks! > > > > I got in the conversation late. What is the time / > place / venue / plan you have in mind? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Neal McBurnett > http://neal.mcburnett.org/ > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 01:27:08AM +0000, Jackie Snow > wrote: > > > 3:30/5:30 sounds great for me. And definitely > starting with me and figuring out where you are in the > process and what > > help you need > > > sounds like a plan. Feel free to break us off into > another thread if you set up a conference line > (otherwise I'll > > just expect a > > > ring!). > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in my response! Thank you so > much for connecting us to so many resources and people > willing > > to help. Abby > > > and Jackie, Wednesday at 3 or 4 MT works for me, > too--let's say 3:30? I'm happy to set up a conference > line and > > send you the > > > call-in number. > > > > > > Richard, we weren't planning this in conjunction > with the Art + Feminism campaign, because we hadn't > realized > > that was > > > happening. I'm so glad to hear there's a larger > movement. Our edit-a-thon sounds like it's aligned with > the > > campaign, and I > > > don't see any events on that list yet that are in > Boulder. > > > > > > One slight variation is that we have been > planning to put an outdoor spin on this event, since we live > in a > > community full of > > > adventure writers and people who work in the > outdoor industry. We have started a list of women who fit > this > > category and are > > > not yet recognized on Wikipedia. Beyond that, we > have picked a date, time, and venue, but have not yet > started > > spreading the > > > word. Jackie, I'm really looking forward to > hearing how you got people excited about this and dedicated > to > > following through at > > > HGF's event. Perhaps we should start there and > then we'll circle back with the rest of you on any > questions we > > may have? > > > > > > Neal, Isarra, Clif, and Abhay, it's nice to meet > you! Do you know of any similar edit-a-thons happening > in > > Boulder in the > > > coming month that might be in the early stages, > like ours is? > > > > > > Thank you so much, everyone! > > > Kassondra > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:55 PM Pharos > <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to introduce you to Neal, Isarra, > Clif and Abhay, who are all I think more or less > Boulder-based. > > > > > > Is your edit-a-thon part of the Art+Feminism > campaign in March, or does it have another focus? > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Richard > > > (User:Pharos) > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Jackie Snow > <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > That would be 5pm my time so 3 p.m. MT or > even 4 would be fine. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:26 AM Abigail > Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks so much for all of this > helpful information, Erika and Jackie! And nice to connect > with you, > > Richard! > > > > > > Jackie, if we'd still like to hop on > a call, Wednesday works well for me, too, but it would > need to > > be after 3 p.m. > > > MT. Kassondra, I know you are > traveling this weekend, so let us know when you're available > when you > > get back to > > > email! > > > > > > Thanks again, everyone, > > > > > > Abby > > > [t]ᐧ > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:34 PM, > Erika Herzog <erika_her...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > > > > Apologies for delay in responding. > > > > > > I think there's a Meetup group in > Boulder -- you might be able to reach out to some of > the people > > who attend > > > and/or organize the events: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Boulder > > > > > > And this Facebook group: > > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipedia.boulder > > > > > > And a Wiki mailing list: > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/Wikimedia-US-CO > > > > > > > > > I suspect you might already know > about these. > > > > > > I'm cc'ing Richard, WM NYC's > President, who has a great network of people knowledge > within the > > Wikimedia / > > > Wikipedia community -- he might > be able to provide more specific connection info. > > > > > > Is your editathon part of > Art+Feminism? They have a coordinator now, and I'm sure might > have some > > collective > > > materials and might be able to > provide assistance. > > > > > > > > > If I can skillshare or help at > all, let me know. I provide administrative assistance to > a lot of > > different > > > initiatives on Wikipedia and if I > can help would be happy to do so. > > > > > > Might be helpful to have more > specifics / details about the editathon, etc. :-) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > - Erika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erika Herzog > > > erika_her...@yahoo.com > > > erika.her...@gmail.com > > > +1-212-749-9601 (cell and home) > > > > > > > > > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > > From: Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> > > > To: Jackie Snow > <jaclynr...@gmail.com>; Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: Erika Herzog > <erika_her...@yahoo.com> > > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 > 10:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: Boulder Wiki event > > > > > > Thank you, Jackie! > > > > > > I'm copying Abby Wise here, who > is co-hosting the Boulder edit-a-thon. I'll be out of > town for > > the next few > > > days, but my schedule is pretty > flexible next week. I'd love to find a time we can all > talk > > together. We're > > > really excited about this! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 7:43 AM, > Jackie Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > So cool about your event. I'd > be happy to hop on a call for any questions. I'm > connecting you > > to Erika > > > here, who is part of > Wikimedia NYC and the event would have been impossible without > her help > > and knowledge. > > > Erika, Kassondra got in touch > with HGF and is planning their own edit-a-thon in > Boulder for > > next month. Is > > > there a Wikimedia chapter out > there? > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Abigail Wise > > > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure > Projects > > > Reported Features Contributor | Romper > > > www.abigailwise.com > > > @abigailwise > > > (651) 324-7341 > > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Abigail Wise > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure Projects > > Reported Features Contributor | Romper > > www.abigailwise.com > > @abigailwise > > (651) 324-7341 > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kassondra Cloos > > @kassondracloos > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Keep it simple. > > As simple as possible. > > But no simpler. --- A. Einstein > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 02:12:07AM +0000, Isarra Yos wrote: > > Oh, awesome. > > > > -I > > > > > On 20/03/17 02:11, Abhay Natu wrote: > > > > > I meant to send this to you all it ended up only sending it to > Kassondra. My apologies. > > > > Abhay > > p.s. I hope those of you in the Boulder area are unaffected by > the wildfire! > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I would love to join you on the 26th 4-6 pm. I am in Colorado > Springs so it's a bit of a drive but I'll try to be > there. > > As a background, I am not a big editor on English Wikipedia but > I do have prolific (if I may say so myself) editing > on Marathi > > Wikipedia. I'm also an admin and a 'crat there. > > I'm hoping to hook into offline activities in Colorado and try > to grow it all over the state. > > > > Thank you for putting this together! > > > > Hope to see you soon. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Abhay > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > We're coming up on the event Abby and I are hosting at the > end of the month, and I want to circle back on all of > this for > > some additional advice. > > > > Abby and I had a great talk with Jackie about the editing > event she hosted in New York. She had some really > useful insight > > for us on on the intricacies of writing and editing on > Wikipedia, and we realized there is a lot we don't know. > For > > example, we were both thinking we could give people a list > of women who need pages, and send them off to start > researching > > them, but Jackie mentioned that those articles could get > deleted by more senior editors if they're written by > folks just > > starting out. We want to make sure we're setting people up > with the knowledge and tools they need to build up > their > > experience and become lifelong editors who will regularly > add citations, and, hopefully, some day write > well-researched > > entries on important women as they see needs. > > > > I think Pharos said you're all based in the Boulder area? > If so, we'd love to meet up with one (or all!) of you > to learn > > how we can be a useful resource for the folks attending our > event in two weeks. Abby is out of town right now, > but I > > believe she's coming back next week. My schedule is > completely open then, and I'm also available this weekend if > that works > > best for anyone. We'd love a bit of a primer on how to get > started as editors, and a run-through of the system so > that we > > can give accurate advice during our event. > > > > Also, if any of you are interested in joining us at Sanitas > for our "Outdoor Women of Wikipedia" event, we'd love > to have > > you all! Jackie mentioned that Erika was an incredible--and > necessary--resource for her event, and we will > certainly take > > all the help and expertise we can get. > > > > Thank you so much, everyone, and I hope you all had a > wonderful weekend! > > > > Best, > > Kassondra > > > > P.S. Apologies if I've left someone out here! This chain > grew pretty quickly and I thought it would be simpler to > reach out > > to the Colorado folks directly, but please feel free to > pass this message along to anyone else in the Wiki > community. > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Abigail Wise > <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Yes to the 3:30 call tomorrow. > > > > We'll be at Sanitas Brewery on March 26 from 4-6pm. One > thing to note: We probably don't want to spread the > word too > > widely as we have to cap the guest list at 35. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Abby > > [t]ᐧ > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Neal McBurnett > <n...@bcn.boulder.co.us> wrote: > > > > Thanks folks! > > > > I got in the conversation late. What is the time / > place / venue / plan you have in mind? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Neal McBurnett > http://neal.mcburnett.org/ > > > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 01:27:08AM +0000, Jackie > Snow wrote: > > > 3:30/5:30 sounds great for me. And definitely > starting with me and figuring out where you are in the > process and > > what help you need > > > sounds like a plan. Feel free to break us off > into another thread if you set up a conference line > (otherwise I'll > > just expect a > > > ring!). > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 5:06 PM Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in my response! Thank you > so much for connecting us to so many resources and > people > > willing to help. Abby > > > and Jackie, Wednesday at 3 or 4 MT works for > me, too--let's say 3:30? I'm happy to set up a > conference line > > and send you the > > > call-in number. > > > > > > Richard, we weren't planning this in > conjunction with the Art + Feminism campaign, because we > hadn't realized > > that was > > > happening. I'm so glad to hear there's a > larger movement. Our edit-a-thon sounds like it's aligned > with the > > campaign, and I > > > don't see any events on that list yet that > are in Boulder. > > > > > > One slight variation is that we have been > planning to put an outdoor spin on this event, since we > live in a > > community full of > > > adventure writers and people who work in the > outdoor industry. We have started a list of women who > fit this > > category and are > > > not yet recognized on Wikipedia. Beyond that, > we have picked a date, time, and venue, but have not > yet > > started spreading the > > > word. Jackie, I'm really looking forward to > hearing how you got people excited about this and > dedicated to > > following through at > > > HGF's event. Perhaps we should start there > and then we'll circle back with the rest of you on any > questions > > we may have? > > > > > > Neal, Isarra, Clif, and Abhay, it's nice to > meet you! Do you know of any similar edit-a-thons > happening in > > Boulder in the > > > coming month that might be in the early > stages, like ours is? > > > > > > Thank you so much, everyone! > > > Kassondra > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:55 PM Pharos > <pharosofalexand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'd like to introduce you to Neal, > Isarra, Clif and Abhay, who are all I think more or less > > Boulder-based. > > > > > > Is your edit-a-thon part of the > Art+Feminism campaign in March, or does it have another focus? > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Richard > > > (User:Pharos) > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Jackie > Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > That would be 5pm my time so 3 p.m. > MT or even 4 would be fine. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:26 AM > Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks so much for all of this > helpful information, Erika and Jackie! And nice to > connect with > > you, Richard! > > > > > > Jackie, if we'd still like to hop > on a call, Wednesday works well for me, too, but it > would need > > to be after 3 p.m. > > > MT. Kassondra, I know you are > traveling this weekend, so let us know when you're > available when > > you get back to > > > email! > > > > > > Thanks again, everyone, > > > > > > Abby > > > [t]ᐧ > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:34 PM, > Erika Herzog <erika_her...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > > > > Apologies for delay in > responding. > > > > > > I think there's a Meetup > group in Boulder -- you might be able to reach out to some > of the > > people who attend > > > and/or organize the events: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Boulder > > > > > > And this Facebook group: > > > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipedia.boulder > > > > > > And a Wiki mailing list: > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/Wikimedia-US-CO > > > > > > > > > I suspect you might already > know about these. > > > > > > I'm cc'ing Richard, WM NYC's > President, who has a great network of people knowledge > within > > the Wikimedia / > > > Wikipedia community -- he > might be able to provide more specific connection info. > > > > > > Is your editathon part of > Art+Feminism? They have a coordinator now, and I'm sure > might have > > some collective > > > materials and might be able > to provide assistance. > > > > > > > > > If I can skillshare or help > at all, let me know. I provide administrative > assistance to a lot > > of different > > > initiatives on Wikipedia and > if I can help would be happy to do so. > > > > > > Might be helpful to have more > specifics / details about the editathon, etc. :-) > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > - Erika > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Erika Herzog > > > erika_her...@yahoo.com > > > erika.her...@gmail.com > > > +1-212-749-9601 (cell and > home) > > > > > > > > > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > > > From: Kassondra Cloos > <kassondracl...@gmail.com> > > > To: Jackie Snow > <jaclynr...@gmail.com>; Abigail Wise <abwis...@gmail.com> > > > Cc: Erika Herzog > <erika_her...@yahoo.com> > > > Sent: Friday, February 17, > 2017 10:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: Boulder Wiki > event > > > > > > Thank you, Jackie! > > > > > > I'm copying Abby Wise here, > who is co-hosting the Boulder edit-a-thon. I'll be out > of town > > for the next few > > > days, but my schedule is > pretty flexible next week. I'd love to find a time we can > all talk > > together. We're > > > really excited about this! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 7:43 > AM, Jackie Snow <jaclynr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kassondra, > > > So cool about your event. > I'd be happy to hop on a call for any questions. I'm > connecting > > you to Erika > > > here, who is part of > Wikimedia NYC and the event would have been impossible > without her > > help and knowledge. > > > Erika, Kassondra got in > touch with HGF and is planning their own edit-a-thon in > Boulder > > for next month. Is > > > there a Wikimedia chapter > out there? > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > www.jsnowphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kassondra Cloos > > > @kassondracloos > > > kassondracloos.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Abigail Wise > > > > > > Senior Editor | REI's Adventure > Projects > > > Reported Features Contributor | > Romper > > > www.abigailwise.com > > > @abigailwise > > > (651) 324-7341 > > > Subscribe to my newsletter > > > > > > -- > > > Jackie Snow > > > 239.404.9698 > > > > <a href="h > > -- > Kassondra Cloos > @kassondracloos > kassondracloos.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-US-CO mailing list Wikimedia-US-CO@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-us-co
