Hi Leigh,

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing
(it's also a long way down in your threaded reply)

Thanks for pitching in people.

Gnangarra, I think it might be worth splitting the FreoSociety image
donation from the editathon into a separate GLAM content donation if
it's an ongoing thing.  I guess that will carry even more weight.

Toby


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could I get the link to the take again please?
>
> On 12/10/2013 8:52 AM, "Gnangarra" <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've also started adding info, but the last few days I've been
>> sidetracked, and need to spend time chasing down the details :)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Gnangarra
>>
>>
>> On 11 October 2013 21:07, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bidgee and Toby,
>>>
>>> Thanks for preparing and adding your info to these spreadsheets.  I know
>>> that filling out paperwork isn't fun but it's one of those things that has
>>> to be done, so thanks for stepping up and leading the way.
>>>
>>> I do have some figures on editathons across NSW and Qld that I will add
>>> as soon as I can locate them.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 October 2013 18:35, <wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:35:13 +1100
>>>> From: Robert Myers <bid...@me.com>
>>>>
>>>> To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query
>>>> Message-ID: <271ccc96-0449-4d48-b0c5-ccde898cd...@me.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've added my two grants, but the equipment cost (amount that I paid out
>>>> of my own pocket) is just an estimate for now, until I can locate the
>>>> receipt.
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Bidgee
>>>>
>>>> On 10/10/2013, at 10:39 PM, Toby Hudson <tob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Kerry,
>>>> >
>>>> > My preferred model would be that each project/editathon/grant leader
>>>> > should report their results in this tabular format, (perhaps as a
>>>> > partial replacement for the written reports we've previously
>>>> > submitted).  We are usually pretty proud of our how our events go, so
>>>> > I expect individuals would often be happy to formally report that back
>>>> > to WMAU if there's a procedure in place.
>>>> >
>>>> > To kick the process off, I've copied the WMF spreadsheet Whiteghost
>>>> > linked to, and have started adapting it for her suggestions and for
>>>> > the Australian context (e.g. Aussie dollars and Photographic Equipment
>>>> > Grants).  I've also added complete current data from my 2011 small
>>>> > grant, and links to the reports from some others I know about.
>>>> > Everybody should feel free to start adding data on programs they know
>>>> > about, and changing field titles to suit the programs we run.  I'll
>>>> > start adding some of the SLNSW and QSA stuff I know about.
>>>> >
>>>> > Here it is in all it's glory - it is open for anyone with the link to
>>>> > edit:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing
>>>> >
>>>> > Toby
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Kerry Raymond
>>>> > <kerry.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> Toby
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You make an excellent point and I doubt anyone will disagree that it
>>>> >> would
>>>> >> be a Good Thing to do this. Would those volunteering to do it please
>>>> >> put
>>>> >> their hands up now?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [Pauses, cups hand around ear listening ...]
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Therein lies the problem that most volunteer organisations face.
>>>> >> Volunteers
>>>> >> do the tasks they enjoy (or at least derive satisfaction from),
>>>> >> because they
>>>> >> do it for free in their leisure time. Now sometimes a volunteer
>>>> >> organisation
>>>> >> is fortunate that there are "different strokes for different folks"
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> someone else will be quite happy to pick up the tasks another person
>>>> >> didn't
>>>> >> want to do.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But sometimes there is nobody to pick it up some tasks (I recollect
>>>> >> another
>>>> >> incorporated association that endlessly tried to establish a roster
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> cleaning the toilet -- which was doomed to failure because nobody
>>>> >> wanted to
>>>> >> do it, even though everyone was in favour of a clean toilet) and I
>>>> >> fear that
>>>> >> metrics may be in that category in WMAU. If so, this is when we need
>>>> >> to look
>>>> >> at outsourcing that task. As you will all know (but maybe don't
>>>> >> remember) we
>>>> >> do now have a contracting policy
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting
>>>> >>
>>>> >> and, any moment now (drum roll), John V will be outlining the
>>>> >> arrangements
>>>> >> for the contracting subcommittee so we can get outsourcing happening.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If there are tasks we need to outsource, we need to do this now while
>>>> >> we
>>>> >> still have funds to pay for the work that needs doing. If we delay
>>>> >> until we
>>>> >> have no funds, then we are in a serious catch-22 situation. I note
>>>> >> that a
>>>> >> number of the chapters who receive FDC funding appear to use at least
>>>> >> part
>>>> >> of those funds to employ project management staff, suggesting that
>>>> >> this is
>>>> >> the kind of thing that is hard to resource with volunteers in most
>>>> >> chapters.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Kerry
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> >> [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Toby
>>>> >> Hudson
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:16 PM
>>>> >> To: Craig Franklin; Wikimedia Australia Chapter
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Craig Franklin
>>>> >> <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> wrote:
>>>> >>> I also agree that the chapter and its volunteers *have* done a lot
>>>> >>> of
>>>> >> great
>>>> >>> work over the past few years, and I think you've hit the nail on the
>>>> >>> head
>>>> >>> that we've often failed to effectively communicate our successes.
>>>> >>> Part of
>>>> >>> any projects going forward will be a need to say "here's how we're
>>>> >>> going
>>>> >> to
>>>> >>> measure success" before we actually dive in on any project, so that
>>>> >>> we can
>>>> >>> either use that measurement as justification for further funding, or
>>>> >>> use
>>>> >>> that measurement to figure out what went wrong and make sure we
>>>> >>> don't make
>>>> >>> the same mistake twice.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> and then:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Absolutely, a lot of volunteers have pitched in at some time or
>>>> >>> another
>>>> >> and done some great work that have (in my opinion) led to positive
>>>> >> outcomes
>>>> >> for the movement.  Enough that I'm not going to even try to enumerate
>>>> >> them
>>>> >> all for fear that I'll leave someone out :-).
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Craig,
>>>> >> Although forward planning of outcome metrics is obviously a good
>>>> >> thing
>>>> >> for the future, I think we should make an effort now to compile
>>>> >> outcomes and metrics for projects, programs and grants that have
>>>> >> already taken place.  Is there an onwiki page for this, or a table to
>>>> >> fill out for each project or grant we have undertaken?  I know there
>>>> >> are some reports linked from here
>>>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Reports#Small_grants but surely
>>>> >> there
>>>> >> are more hanging around?  Even though you can't enumerate them off
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> top of your head, we *should* be able to enumerate them if everyone
>>>> >> writes up the outcomes of projects we've individually been involved
>>>> >> with.  I know there are huge outcomes as a result of the SLNSW
>>>> >> training and residency.. but maybe they have not been tabulated into
>>>> >> reportable dotpoints?
>>>> >> Toby
>>>> >>
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