Hi Leigh, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing (it's also a long way down in your threaded reply)
Thanks for pitching in people. Gnangarra, I think it might be worth splitting the FreoSociety image donation from the editathon into a separate GLAM content donation if it's an ongoing thing. I guess that will carry even more weight. Toby On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote: > Could I get the link to the take again please? > > On 12/10/2013 8:52 AM, "Gnangarra" <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I've also started adding info, but the last few days I've been >> sidetracked, and need to spend time chasing down the details :) >> >> Cheers >> Gnangarra >> >> >> On 11 October 2013 21:07, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> >> wrote: >>> >>> Bidgee and Toby, >>> >>> Thanks for preparing and adding your info to these spreadsheets. I know >>> that filling out paperwork isn't fun but it's one of those things that has >>> to be done, so thanks for stepping up and leading the way. >>> >>> I do have some figures on editathons across NSW and Qld that I will add >>> as soon as I can locate them. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> On 11 October 2013 18:35, <wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:35:13 +1100 >>>> From: Robert Myers <bid...@me.com> >>>> >>>> To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query >>>> Message-ID: <271ccc96-0449-4d48-b0c5-ccde898cd...@me.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> >>>> I've added my two grants, but the equipment cost (amount that I paid out >>>> of my own pocket) is just an estimate for now, until I can locate the >>>> receipt. >>>> >>>> - >>>> Bidgee >>>> >>>> On 10/10/2013, at 10:39 PM, Toby Hudson <tob...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi Kerry, >>>> > >>>> > My preferred model would be that each project/editathon/grant leader >>>> > should report their results in this tabular format, (perhaps as a >>>> > partial replacement for the written reports we've previously >>>> > submitted). We are usually pretty proud of our how our events go, so >>>> > I expect individuals would often be happy to formally report that back >>>> > to WMAU if there's a procedure in place. >>>> > >>>> > To kick the process off, I've copied the WMF spreadsheet Whiteghost >>>> > linked to, and have started adapting it for her suggestions and for >>>> > the Australian context (e.g. Aussie dollars and Photographic Equipment >>>> > Grants). I've also added complete current data from my 2011 small >>>> > grant, and links to the reports from some others I know about. >>>> > Everybody should feel free to start adding data on programs they know >>>> > about, and changing field titles to suit the programs we run. I'll >>>> > start adding some of the SLNSW and QSA stuff I know about. >>>> > >>>> > Here it is in all it's glory - it is open for anyone with the link to >>>> > edit: >>>> > >>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing >>>> > >>>> > Toby >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Kerry Raymond >>>> > <kerry.raym...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> Toby >>>> >> >>>> >> You make an excellent point and I doubt anyone will disagree that it >>>> >> would >>>> >> be a Good Thing to do this. Would those volunteering to do it please >>>> >> put >>>> >> their hands up now? >>>> >> >>>> >> [Pauses, cups hand around ear listening ...] >>>> >> >>>> >> Therein lies the problem that most volunteer organisations face. >>>> >> Volunteers >>>> >> do the tasks they enjoy (or at least derive satisfaction from), >>>> >> because they >>>> >> do it for free in their leisure time. Now sometimes a volunteer >>>> >> organisation >>>> >> is fortunate that there are "different strokes for different folks" >>>> >> and >>>> >> someone else will be quite happy to pick up the tasks another person >>>> >> didn't >>>> >> want to do. >>>> >> >>>> >> But sometimes there is nobody to pick it up some tasks (I recollect >>>> >> another >>>> >> incorporated association that endlessly tried to establish a roster >>>> >> for >>>> >> cleaning the toilet -- which was doomed to failure because nobody >>>> >> wanted to >>>> >> do it, even though everyone was in favour of a clean toilet) and I >>>> >> fear that >>>> >> metrics may be in that category in WMAU. If so, this is when we need >>>> >> to look >>>> >> at outsourcing that task. As you will all know (but maybe don't >>>> >> remember) we >>>> >> do now have a contracting policy >>>> >> >>>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting >>>> >> >>>> >> and, any moment now (drum roll), John V will be outlining the >>>> >> arrangements >>>> >> for the contracting subcommittee so we can get outsourcing happening. >>>> >> >>>> >> If there are tasks we need to outsource, we need to do this now while >>>> >> we >>>> >> still have funds to pay for the work that needs doing. If we delay >>>> >> until we >>>> >> have no funds, then we are in a serious catch-22 situation. I note >>>> >> that a >>>> >> number of the chapters who receive FDC funding appear to use at least >>>> >> part >>>> >> of those funds to employ project management staff, suggesting that >>>> >> this is >>>> >> the kind of thing that is hard to resource with volunteers in most >>>> >> chapters. >>>> >> >>>> >> Kerry >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Toby >>>> >> Hudson >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:16 PM >>>> >> To: Craig Franklin; Wikimedia Australia Chapter >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Craig Franklin >>>> >> <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> wrote: >>>> >>> I also agree that the chapter and its volunteers *have* done a lot >>>> >>> of >>>> >> great >>>> >>> work over the past few years, and I think you've hit the nail on the >>>> >>> head >>>> >>> that we've often failed to effectively communicate our successes. >>>> >>> Part of >>>> >>> any projects going forward will be a need to say "here's how we're >>>> >>> going >>>> >> to >>>> >>> measure success" before we actually dive in on any project, so that >>>> >>> we can >>>> >>> either use that measurement as justification for further funding, or >>>> >>> use >>>> >>> that measurement to figure out what went wrong and make sure we >>>> >>> don't make >>>> >>> the same mistake twice. >>>> >> >>>> >> and then: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Absolutely, a lot of volunteers have pitched in at some time or >>>> >>> another >>>> >> and done some great work that have (in my opinion) led to positive >>>> >> outcomes >>>> >> for the movement. Enough that I'm not going to even try to enumerate >>>> >> them >>>> >> all for fear that I'll leave someone out :-). >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi Craig, >>>> >> Although forward planning of outcome metrics is obviously a good >>>> >> thing >>>> >> for the future, I think we should make an effort now to compile >>>> >> outcomes and metrics for projects, programs and grants that have >>>> >> already taken place. Is there an onwiki page for this, or a table to >>>> >> fill out for each project or grant we have undertaken? I know there >>>> >> are some reports linked from here >>>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Reports#Small_grants but surely >>>> >> there >>>> >> are more hanging around? Even though you can't enumerate them off >>>> >> the >>>> >> top of your head, we *should* be able to enumerate them if everyone >>>> >> writes up the outcomes of projects we've individually been involved >>>> >> with. I know there are huge outcomes as a result of the SLNSW >>>> >> training and residency.. but maybe they have not been tabulated into >>>> >> reportable dotpoints? >>>> >> Toby >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 85, Issue 20 >>>> ********************************************* >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> GN. >> Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com >> Gn. 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