Could I get the link to the take again please? On 12/10/2013 8:52 AM, "Gnangarra" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've also started adding info, but the last few days I've been > sidetracked, and need to spend time chasing down the details :) > > Cheers > Gnangarra > > > On 11 October 2013 21:07, Craig Franklin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Bidgee and Toby, >> >> Thanks for preparing and adding your info to these spreadsheets. I know >> that filling out paperwork isn't fun but it's one of those things that has >> to be done, so thanks for stepping up and leading the way. >> >> I do have some figures on editathons across NSW and Qld that I will add >> as soon as I can locate them. >> >> Cheers, >> Craig >> >> >> On 11 October 2013 18:35, <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:35:13 +1100 >>> From: Robert Myers <[email protected]> >>> >>> To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> >>> I've added my two grants, but the equipment cost (amount that I paid out >>> of my own pocket) is just an estimate for now, until I can locate the >>> receipt. >>> >>> - >>> Bidgee >>> >>> On 10/10/2013, at 10:39 PM, Toby Hudson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi Kerry, >>> > >>> > My preferred model would be that each project/editathon/grant leader >>> > should report their results in this tabular format, (perhaps as a >>> > partial replacement for the written reports we've previously >>> > submitted). We are usually pretty proud of our how our events go, so >>> > I expect individuals would often be happy to formally report that back >>> > to WMAU if there's a procedure in place. >>> > >>> > To kick the process off, I've copied the WMF spreadsheet Whiteghost >>> > linked to, and have started adapting it for her suggestions and for >>> > the Australian context (e.g. Aussie dollars and Photographic Equipment >>> > Grants). I've also added complete current data from my 2011 small >>> > grant, and links to the reports from some others I know about. >>> > Everybody should feel free to start adding data on programs they know >>> > about, and changing field titles to suit the programs we run. I'll >>> > start adding some of the SLNSW and QSA stuff I know about. >>> > >>> > Here it is in all it's glory - it is open for anyone with the link to >>> edit: >>> > >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing >>> > >>> > Toby >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Kerry Raymond < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Toby >>> >> >>> >> You make an excellent point and I doubt anyone will disagree that it >>> would >>> >> be a Good Thing to do this. Would those volunteering to do it please >>> put >>> >> their hands up now? >>> >> >>> >> [Pauses, cups hand around ear listening ...] >>> >> >>> >> Therein lies the problem that most volunteer organisations face. >>> Volunteers >>> >> do the tasks they enjoy (or at least derive satisfaction from), >>> because they >>> >> do it for free in their leisure time. Now sometimes a volunteer >>> organisation >>> >> is fortunate that there are "different strokes for different folks" >>> and >>> >> someone else will be quite happy to pick up the tasks another person >>> didn't >>> >> want to do. >>> >> >>> >> But sometimes there is nobody to pick it up some tasks (I recollect >>> another >>> >> incorporated association that endlessly tried to establish a roster >>> for >>> >> cleaning the toilet -- which was doomed to failure because nobody >>> wanted to >>> >> do it, even though everyone was in favour of a clean toilet) and I >>> fear that >>> >> metrics may be in that category in WMAU. If so, this is when we need >>> to look >>> >> at outsourcing that task. As you will all know (but maybe don't >>> remember) we >>> >> do now have a contracting policy >>> >> >>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting >>> >> >>> >> and, any moment now (drum roll), John V will be outlining the >>> arrangements >>> >> for the contracting subcommittee so we can get outsourcing happening. >>> >> >>> >> If there are tasks we need to outsource, we need to do this now while >>> we >>> >> still have funds to pay for the work that needs doing. If we delay >>> until we >>> >> have no funds, then we are in a serious catch-22 situation. I note >>> that a >>> >> number of the chapters who receive FDC funding appear to use at least >>> part >>> >> of those funds to employ project management staff, suggesting that >>> this is >>> >> the kind of thing that is hard to resource with volunteers in most >>> chapters. >>> >> >>> >> Kerry >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: [email protected] >>> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toby >>> Hudson >>> >> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:16 PM >>> >> To: Craig Franklin; Wikimedia Australia Chapter >>> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Craig Franklin >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I also agree that the chapter and its volunteers *have* done a lot of >>> >> great >>> >>> work over the past few years, and I think you've hit the nail on the >>> head >>> >>> that we've often failed to effectively communicate our successes. >>> Part of >>> >>> any projects going forward will be a need to say "here's how we're >>> going >>> >> to >>> >>> measure success" before we actually dive in on any project, so that >>> we can >>> >>> either use that measurement as justification for further funding, or >>> use >>> >>> that measurement to figure out what went wrong and make sure we >>> don't make >>> >>> the same mistake twice. >>> >> >>> >> and then: >>> >> >>> >>> Absolutely, a lot of volunteers have pitched in at some time or >>> another >>> >> and done some great work that have (in my opinion) led to positive >>> outcomes >>> >> for the movement. Enough that I'm not going to even try to enumerate >>> them >>> >> all for fear that I'll leave someone out :-). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Hi Craig, >>> >> Although forward planning of outcome metrics is obviously a good thing >>> >> for the future, I think we should make an effort now to compile >>> >> outcomes and metrics for projects, programs and grants that have >>> >> already taken place. Is there an onwiki page for this, or a table to >>> >> fill out for each project or grant we have undertaken? I know there >>> >> are some reports linked from here >>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Reports#Small_grants but surely >>> there >>> >> are more hanging around? Even though you can't enumerate them off the >>> >> top of your head, we *should* be able to enumerate them if everyone >>> >> writes up the outcomes of projects we've individually been involved >>> >> with. I know there are huge outcomes as a result of the SLNSW >>> >> training and residency.. but maybe they have not been tabulated into >>> >> reportable dotpoints? >>> >> Toby >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >>> End of Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 85, Issue 20 >>> ********************************************* >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > > -- > GN. > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > Gn. 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