I've also started adding info, but the last few days I've been sidetracked, and need to spend time chasing down the details :)
Cheers Gnangarra On 11 October 2013 21:07, Craig Franklin <[email protected]> wrote: > Bidgee and Toby, > > Thanks for preparing and adding your info to these spreadsheets. I know > that filling out paperwork isn't fun but it's one of those things that has > to be done, so thanks for stepping up and leading the way. > > I do have some figures on editathons across NSW and Qld that I will add as > soon as I can locate them. > > Cheers, > Craig > > > On 11 October 2013 18:35, <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:35:13 +1100 >> From: Robert Myers <[email protected]> >> >> To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> I've added my two grants, but the equipment cost (amount that I paid out >> of my own pocket) is just an estimate for now, until I can locate the >> receipt. >> >> - >> Bidgee >> >> On 10/10/2013, at 10:39 PM, Toby Hudson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Hi Kerry, >> > >> > My preferred model would be that each project/editathon/grant leader >> > should report their results in this tabular format, (perhaps as a >> > partial replacement for the written reports we've previously >> > submitted). We are usually pretty proud of our how our events go, so >> > I expect individuals would often be happy to formally report that back >> > to WMAU if there's a procedure in place. >> > >> > To kick the process off, I've copied the WMF spreadsheet Whiteghost >> > linked to, and have started adapting it for her suggestions and for >> > the Australian context (e.g. Aussie dollars and Photographic Equipment >> > Grants). I've also added complete current data from my 2011 small >> > grant, and links to the reports from some others I know about. >> > Everybody should feel free to start adding data on programs they know >> > about, and changing field titles to suit the programs we run. I'll >> > start adding some of the SLNSW and QSA stuff I know about. >> > >> > Here it is in all it's glory - it is open for anyone with the link to >> edit: >> > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing >> > >> > Toby >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Toby >> >> >> >> You make an excellent point and I doubt anyone will disagree that it >> would >> >> be a Good Thing to do this. Would those volunteering to do it please >> put >> >> their hands up now? >> >> >> >> [Pauses, cups hand around ear listening ...] >> >> >> >> Therein lies the problem that most volunteer organisations face. >> Volunteers >> >> do the tasks they enjoy (or at least derive satisfaction from), >> because they >> >> do it for free in their leisure time. Now sometimes a volunteer >> organisation >> >> is fortunate that there are "different strokes for different folks" and >> >> someone else will be quite happy to pick up the tasks another person >> didn't >> >> want to do. >> >> >> >> But sometimes there is nobody to pick it up some tasks (I recollect >> another >> >> incorporated association that endlessly tried to establish a roster for >> >> cleaning the toilet -- which was doomed to failure because nobody >> wanted to >> >> do it, even though everyone was in favour of a clean toilet) and I >> fear that >> >> metrics may be in that category in WMAU. If so, this is when we need >> to look >> >> at outsourcing that task. As you will all know (but maybe don't >> remember) we >> >> do now have a contracting policy >> >> >> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting >> >> >> >> and, any moment now (drum roll), John V will be outlining the >> arrangements >> >> for the contracting subcommittee so we can get outsourcing happening. >> >> >> >> If there are tasks we need to outsource, we need to do this now while >> we >> >> still have funds to pay for the work that needs doing. If we delay >> until we >> >> have no funds, then we are in a serious catch-22 situation. I note >> that a >> >> number of the chapters who receive FDC funding appear to use at least >> part >> >> of those funds to employ project management staff, suggesting that >> this is >> >> the kind of thing that is hard to resource with volunteers in most >> chapters. >> >> >> >> Kerry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Toby >> Hudson >> >> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:16 PM >> >> To: Craig Franklin; Wikimedia Australia Chapter >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Craig Franklin >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I also agree that the chapter and its volunteers *have* done a lot of >> >> great >> >>> work over the past few years, and I think you've hit the nail on the >> head >> >>> that we've often failed to effectively communicate our successes. >> Part of >> >>> any projects going forward will be a need to say "here's how we're >> going >> >> to >> >>> measure success" before we actually dive in on any project, so that >> we can >> >>> either use that measurement as justification for further funding, or >> use >> >>> that measurement to figure out what went wrong and make sure we don't >> make >> >>> the same mistake twice. >> >> >> >> and then: >> >> >> >>> Absolutely, a lot of volunteers have pitched in at some time or >> another >> >> and done some great work that have (in my opinion) led to positive >> outcomes >> >> for the movement. Enough that I'm not going to even try to enumerate >> them >> >> all for fear that I'll leave someone out :-). >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> Although forward planning of outcome metrics is obviously a good thing >> >> for the future, I think we should make an effort now to compile >> >> outcomes and metrics for projects, programs and grants that have >> >> already taken place. Is there an onwiki page for this, or a table to >> >> fill out for each project or grant we have undertaken? I know there >> >> are some reports linked from here >> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Reports#Small_grants but surely there >> >> are more hanging around? Even though you can't enumerate them off the >> >> top of your head, we *should* be able to enumerate them if everyone >> >> writes up the outcomes of projects we've individually been involved >> >> with. I know there are huge outcomes as a result of the SLNSW >> >> training and residency.. but maybe they have not been tabulated into >> >> reportable dotpoints? >> >> Toby >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> >> End of Wikimediaau-l Digest, Vol 85, Issue 20 >> ********************************************* >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > -- GN. 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