I've also started adding info, but the last few days I've been sidetracked,
and need to spend time chasing down the details :)

Cheers
Gnangarra


On 11 October 2013 21:07, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> wrote:

> Bidgee and Toby,
>
> Thanks for preparing and adding your info to these spreadsheets.  I know
> that filling out paperwork isn't fun but it's one of those things that has
> to be done, so thanks for stepping up and leading the way.
>
> I do have some figures on editathons across NSW and Qld that I will add as
> soon as I can locate them.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
>
> On 11 October 2013 18:35, <wikimediaau-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:35:13 +1100
>> From: Robert Myers <bid...@me.com>
>>
>> To: Wikimedia Australia Chapter <wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query
>> Message-ID: <271ccc96-0449-4d48-b0c5-ccde898cd...@me.com>
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>>
>>
>> I've added my two grants, but the equipment cost (amount that I paid out
>> of my own pocket) is just an estimate for now, until I can locate the
>> receipt.
>>
>> -
>> Bidgee
>>
>> On 10/10/2013, at 10:39 PM, Toby Hudson <tob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Kerry,
>> >
>> > My preferred model would be that each project/editathon/grant leader
>> > should report their results in this tabular format, (perhaps as a
>> > partial replacement for the written reports we've previously
>> > submitted).  We are usually pretty proud of our how our events go, so
>> > I expect individuals would often be happy to formally report that back
>> > to WMAU if there's a procedure in place.
>> >
>> > To kick the process off, I've copied the WMF spreadsheet Whiteghost
>> > linked to, and have started adapting it for her suggestions and for
>> > the Australian context (e.g. Aussie dollars and Photographic Equipment
>> > Grants).  I've also added complete current data from my 2011 small
>> > grant, and links to the reports from some others I know about.
>> > Everybody should feel free to start adding data on programs they know
>> > about, and changing field titles to suit the programs we run.  I'll
>> > start adding some of the SLNSW and QSA stuff I know about.
>> >
>> > Here it is in all it's glory - it is open for anyone with the link to
>> edit:
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvHbaGUCSbP9dGppX1dhOWxka1I5MTdhMEJHcU9ILUE&usp=sharing
>> >
>> > Toby
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raym...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Toby
>> >>
>> >> You make an excellent point and I doubt anyone will disagree that it
>> would
>> >> be a Good Thing to do this. Would those volunteering to do it please
>> put
>> >> their hands up now?
>> >>
>> >> [Pauses, cups hand around ear listening ...]
>> >>
>> >> Therein lies the problem that most volunteer organisations face.
>> Volunteers
>> >> do the tasks they enjoy (or at least derive satisfaction from),
>> because they
>> >> do it for free in their leisure time. Now sometimes a volunteer
>> organisation
>> >> is fortunate that there are "different strokes for different folks" and
>> >> someone else will be quite happy to pick up the tasks another person
>> didn't
>> >> want to do.
>> >>
>> >> But sometimes there is nobody to pick it up some tasks (I recollect
>> another
>> >> incorporated association that endlessly tried to establish a roster for
>> >> cleaning the toilet -- which was doomed to failure because nobody
>> wanted to
>> >> do it, even though everyone was in favour of a clean toilet) and I
>> fear that
>> >> metrics may be in that category in WMAU. If so, this is when we need
>> to look
>> >> at outsourcing that task. As you will all know (but maybe don't
>> remember) we
>> >> do now have a contracting policy
>> >>
>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Contracting
>> >>
>> >> and, any moment now (drum roll), John V will be outlining the
>> arrangements
>> >> for the contracting subcommittee so we can get outsourcing happening.
>> >>
>> >> If there are tasks we need to outsource, we need to do this now while
>> we
>> >> still have funds to pay for the work that needs doing. If we delay
>> until we
>> >> have no funds, then we are in a serious catch-22 situation. I note
>> that a
>> >> number of the chapters who receive FDC funding appear to use at least
>> part
>> >> of those funds to employ project management staff, suggesting that
>> this is
>> >> the kind of thing that is hard to resource with volunteers in most
>> chapters.
>> >>
>> >> Kerry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> >> [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Toby
>> Hudson
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2013 4:16 PM
>> >> To: Craig Franklin; Wikimedia Australia Chapter
>> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Funding Query
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Craig Franklin
>> >> <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> wrote:
>> >>> I also agree that the chapter and its volunteers *have* done a lot of
>> >> great
>> >>> work over the past few years, and I think you've hit the nail on the
>> head
>> >>> that we've often failed to effectively communicate our successes.
>>  Part of
>> >>> any projects going forward will be a need to say "here's how we're
>> going
>> >> to
>> >>> measure success" before we actually dive in on any project, so that
>> we can
>> >>> either use that measurement as justification for further funding, or
>> use
>> >>> that measurement to figure out what went wrong and make sure we don't
>> make
>> >>> the same mistake twice.
>> >>
>> >> and then:
>> >>
>> >>> Absolutely, a lot of volunteers have pitched in at some time or
>> another
>> >> and done some great work that have (in my opinion) led to positive
>> outcomes
>> >> for the movement.  Enough that I'm not going to even try to enumerate
>> them
>> >> all for fear that I'll leave someone out :-).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Craig,
>> >> Although forward planning of outcome metrics is obviously a good thing
>> >> for the future, I think we should make an effort now to compile
>> >> outcomes and metrics for projects, programs and grants that have
>> >> already taken place.  Is there an onwiki page for this, or a table to
>> >> fill out for each project or grant we have undertaken?  I know there
>> >> are some reports linked from here
>> >> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Reports#Small_grants but surely there
>> >> are more hanging around?  Even though you can't enumerate them off the
>> >> top of your head, we *should* be able to enumerate them if everyone
>> >> writes up the outcomes of projects we've individually been involved
>> >> with.  I know there are huge outcomes as a result of the SLNSW
>> >> training and residency.. but maybe they have not been tabulated into
>> >> reportable dotpoints?
>> >> Toby
>> >>
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