Is there a webpage or description that could be sent to local council libraries or university libraries to explain what would be required?
On 4 February 2014 15:33, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes from an operational perspective it easy to approach one group to do > all the plaques, if that was the purpose of this proposal Freo is ready for > another set of plaques.... > > Yes we know there will be some additional work involved in the process in > looking at it individually, that is weighed against the potential benefits > of engaging in a number of these projects in the longer term. > > Yes a passionate editor will be more successful in getting engagement and > thats a good thing as we want to empower our members to be successful and > with Wikitowns in Monmouth, Gibralta, Fremantle, Johannesburg, Toodyay, > Bremen and couple of other places we have a format that can be replicated. > The QR coding has been proven successful in musuems and other places, I > even QR coded an art exhibition in Freo. If someone finds a synergy with > other things they may be involved in go for it. > > This is about creating short term measurable successes for WMAU to > support, WMAU tried the longer term projects with workshops, while they > build good relationships they havent built the flashy measurables that the > FDC and WMF want to see. Putting an April time table means we can have a > nation wide project thats got them... if those that have already engage > with GLAMs want to contact the people they have met I'm sure most of them > will have something that could be QR coded like a statue or bust, the > person who the place is named after, or some other display. > > Gideon > > > On 4 February 2014 10:03, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All true, but, from an operational perspective, it's much more >> time-efficient to approach 1 organisation in relation to many plaques than >> vice versa. It think there's at least 3 variations here. >> >> 1. WMAU celebrates existing GAs by organising plaques where possible. >> 2. WMAU organises for plaques at willing locations and then tries to >> motivate its members or WP contributors for generally to upgrade the >> corresponding articles (as required). >> 3. Passionate editor (might or might not be WMAU member) either has a GA >> article or is motivated to work toward one. WMAU organises plaque. >> >> Operationally, 1 is the easiest as it can be done with only WMAU >> resources (time and effort). 2 may need assistance of folks outside of >> WMAU. 3 is critically dependent on folks outside WMAU. Both 2 and 3 need >> communication out to Australian editors, which is an area of weakness for >> us operationally. Engaging outside WMAU increases risk. >> >> 1 and 3 are most exposed to the risk that the article doesn't have a >> "location" and that the owner does not give permission for the plaque. That >> risk is reduced with 2 as you start with locations most likely to be >> willing to multiple plaques, but increases risk that the articles aren't >> good enough, which is reduced with 1 and 2. >> >> If we are trying to impress WMF in a future FDC application, we need to >> have projects that are successfully implemented and produce nice metrics. >> That means we need to consider how to reduce implementation risk. Waiting >> for hundreds of passionate editors to do something we want them to do ... >> that's something we can't control ... It's ok to use the strategy but I >> don't think we can rely on it to give us 100 (or whatever) plaques in 12 >> months. I'd prefer to see strategies 1 or 2 employed to target the 100 >> plaques and see any from strategy 3 as bonus extras (or reducing the need >> to get as many from strategy 1 and 2). >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 3 Feb 2014, at 10:58 am, Toby Hudson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Wait wait ... "approach the old Parliament and look to QR code every PM >> article" ... that is a whole separate proposal, it's effectively a >> mini-wiki-town idea. Maybe ok, but that's quite different to the GA one, >> mainly because it centralizes the inspiration and motivation: "WMAU says >> prime ministers are important - you volunteer editors should improve the >> articles about our prime ministers" instead of "If your passion is for >> prime ministers (or anything else that can be related to a place), getting >> an article up to scratch can result in a 'prize' of seeing the article >> promoted in the real world" >> >> We don't need to contrive a plaque place for every existing good article, >> we can be selective about which will be most effective with plaques. >> Having scanned the list, I think we could find plenty which would have an >> effective location to kickstart the project and start getting >> statistically-valid metrics. >> >> Toby >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Kerry Raymond >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Yes, that is what I was thinking. It may be easier to first find >>> the willing places and then upgrade the articles if necessary. >>> >>> >>> >>> And it would be useful to kill multiple birds with one stone. Because >>> the Museum of Democracy at old Parliament House has a permanent >>> exhibition on the prime ministers: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://moadoph.gov.au/exhibitions/prime-ministers-of-australia-exhibition/ >>> >>> >>> >>> they might not be amenable to QR plaques (but I guess you never know >>> until you ask), but on closer inspection, Ballarat Gardens might indeed >>> be the place to try: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Ministers_Avenue >>> >>> >>> >>> because it appears they have busts of all the PMs and (I would imagine) >>> no easy way to display information about them, so perhaps an ideal >>> opportunity for QR plaques! >>> >>> >>> >>> Kerry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* Gnangarra [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Monday, 3 February 2014 9:53 AM >>> *To:* Kerry Raymond; Wikimedia Australia Chapter >>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] QR code proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> The aim is to improve the number of articles of a reasonable standard, >>> there are many articles that need very little to get them past GA its just >>> encouraging someone to make that effort. Yes bios are harder to find >>> suitable places thats why the focus is towards heritage buildings, places, >>> statues etc many of which are in public type ownership which are easier to >>> get permissions from. >>> >>> Taking the Andrew Fisher article, we could approach the old Parliament >>> and look to QR code every PM article as they have a hall with limited >>> information on each >>> >>> >>> >>> Most people responded happily to a written request. >>> >>> running with less increase the cost, the smaller the batch the higher >>> the costs. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 February 2014 07:31, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I think it's a good idea. >>> >>> >>> >>> But then I took a quick look at the list of the GA articles for >>> Australia. Yes, 500+ of them, but an awful lot don't seem to have an >>> obvious "place" to put a plaque. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/enwp10/cgi-bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=Australia&quality=GA-Class >>> >>> >>> >>> Just starting with the first on the list >>> >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Fisher >>> >>> >>> >>> where would we put a plaque for him? He's got a couple of memorials in >>> the UK (where he was born and died) and there is a bust of him in >>> Ballarat (a city with which he does not appear to have been associated). I >>> think we'd face a similar problem with many of the GAs being biographies. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also, in your Freopedia experience, how much time has to go into getting >>> permission from the owner of the place where we want to put the plaque? >>> Again, with Freopedia, you were "on the ground" and probably >>> well-connected. But Australia-wide it's probably going to be "cold-calling" >>> in a lot of situations. Did you contact people directly yourself or get >>> introduced by a local historical society or ...? >>> >>> >>> >>> Also, are there any constraints on the number of plaques in a batch? How >>> few could we start with? You mention 100 as a trial in the proposal. Is >>> that the minimum? Or could we run with less? >>> >>> >>> >>> Kerry >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Gnangarra >>> *Sent:* Sunday, 2 February 2014 7:25 PM >>> *To:* Wikimedia-au >>> *Subject:* [Wikimediaau-l] QR code proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone >>> >>> During todays iirc discussion its was suggested that WMAU would create >>> QR codes of articles which achieve GA status. This would enable everyone to >>> participate in the WikiTown format without creating a full project, this >>> will work especially well for places where you have a connection and can >>> assist in gaining permission to install the plaque. >>> >>> The proposal is at >>> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:QR_codes_GA_articles >>> >>> Please join the discussion >>> >>> Gideon >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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