Povão, me ajuda aqui vai: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom#Artigo_do_Estad.C3.A3o
On 25 February 2013 10:50, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Bom, para o povo da WMBR, antes de eu fazer uma carta pública como havia > falado, tentei verificar o que estava havendo por emails, antes de fazer > uma abertura, já que poderia ser apenas uma questão de falha na comunicação. > > Eu enviei para o Bence um email, entretanto, pelo visto, ele enviou para > Tomasz e ele resolveu abrir. Preferível assim. > > For AffCom > > We will respond all questions in Meta, including the article and I expect > the same of you about the statement. Just to be clear the question that > you make reference is that "I can't see the relation between such an > organisation and a *distributed institutional design*." Because, we > answer here > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom#wmbrorganization a > lot of questions, with no feedbacks. > > Soo... let's move! > > > > On 25 February 2013 09:25, Tomasz W. Kozłowski <odder.w...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On 25 February 2013 11:28, Rodrigo wrote: >> >> > This http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Planned_chapters >> , >> > continues with lies, we are waiting for your answers and we didn't make >> any >> > moves. >> >> First of all, let me mention that calling anything that's posted on >> that page "a lie" is either an emotional overstatement or an example >> of not assuming good faith. Seeing that the discussion between >> Wikimedia Brasil and this Committee has already been quite an >> emotional one--and this applies to the past Chapters Committee, too, >> as far as I see--I would have hoped that your communication with us >> wouldn't contain such allegations. >> >> To get to the point, however, I would welcome an explanation of what >> part of "Incorporated without AffCom approval, against advice. Slowly >> on-going conversation at Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom" is not true. >> >> > If you take longer than two weeks, we predict that we will not able to >> > perform the WLM, which was a activities designed for this year, but we >> need >> > a government permission to conduct any contest in Brazil. >> >> The process of recognising a Wikimedia group as a chapter takes much >> more than that; reviewing bylaws, putting a Commitee resolution to a >> vote, and waiting for an official resolution from the Board of >> Trustess would take at least about six weeks in a perfect world--and >> seeing that the one we live in is /not/ perfect, I guess that there is >> no chance to approve Wikimedia Brasil in two weeks. >> >> > As the process is not transparent, we do not know what are the questions >> > that you still have, so please, if you have them, do not come into >> contact >> > with our volunteers individually, and ask the questions on Meta >> > (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brasil/AffCom) and we will >> respond >> > as soon as possible. >> >> As far as I see, there is at least one question that I asked on >> October 9 that still has not received an answer from any of the >> members of Wikimedia Brasil. Because it concerns the contents of your >> bylaws versus the reality, I would very much like to see it answered. >> >> > Also, I want a formal and open statement from AffCom about this >> assertion: >> > "Incorporated without AffCom approval, against advice" >> >> I, on the other hand, want a formal and open statement from Wikimedia >> Brasil about this article >> <http://blogs.estadao.com.br/link/wikimedia-brasil-sera-fundada-amanha/>, >> and especially the opening sentence: "Nesta sexta-feira, 12, >> voluntários brasileiros da enciclopédia virtual Wikipédia vão >> institucionalizar suas atividades e fundar a Wikimedia Brasil." as >> well as a short overview of what happened between 16:00 and 18:00 on >> October 12, 2012, during the WikiBrasil conference >> <https://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiBrasil_2012>. >> >> It is my belief that letting us know about that would greatly enhance >> the cooperation between Wikimedia Brasil and this Committee, and would >> be a huge step in moving forward the recognition of your group as a >> Wikimedia chapter. >> >> PS I am CC-ing both the Affiliations Commitee and Wikimedia Brasil's >> mailing list to this e-mail for transparency's sake. When replying to >> this message, please keep both parties in the CC, so we don't lose >> track of things. Thank you. >> >> -- >> Tomasz W. Kozłowski >> a.k.a. [[user:odder]] >> > > > > -- > Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton > rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com > +55 11 979 718 884 > -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com +55 11 979 718 884
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