Hi,

The activity of the Chapter and the User Groups should flow to forward the 
movement. 

Chapter is not democratically elected by the Community. It is a subset of the 
Community, recognised by WMF. There is a large Community member pool who are 
not Chapter members, whose membership stands between 130-150 people at last 
count. The Chapter has to consider why this continues to be the case after 4 
years of its existence.

User Groups are a group of people who also similarly get affiliation from WMF 
and hence has a standing equivalent to the Indian Chapter in India. Here - 
http://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups

SIGs can be formed only by members of the Chapter and not outside it. Till 
Vishwa's email today, the Chapter has been unwilling to support creation of 
User Groups stating that SIGs can perform the same role. My clarification in 
this case is only that this forces a Wikimedian to become a Chapter member. 

My original email is only for Wikimedians in India to not consider the Chapter 
as an eternal entity based on a mandate given to it in 2010.

Warm regards.
Pradeep

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> On 07-Sep-2014, at 12:49, "Dhaval S. Vyas" <dsv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
>> On 7 Sep 2014 07:53, "Vikram Vincent" <vincentvik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> HI,
>> 
>>> On 7 September 2014 11:38, Pradeep Mohandas <pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I meant that the SIG system is similar to the User Group system. In the SIG 
>>> affiliation is to the Chapter and in the User Group, the affiliation  is to 
>>> WMF directly. 
>>> 
>>> The need for direct affiliation is felt because the Chapter does not seem 
>>> to be democratic (as you call it). Otherwise, the SIG would be a useful 
>>> model to have.
>> 
>> Whether you acknowledge it or not, the Chapter is the democratically elected 
>> body {by, of, for} the community and as long as it has such a structure 
>> there is always scope to improve.  The SIG will function well as long as it 
>> works from within the chapter instead of trying to bypass the chapter.  User 
>> groups and SIG are not the same as they have different functions.  User 
>> groups are generic and can accommodate everybody whereas Special Interest 
>> Groups have special interests as the name says. So the user group and SIG 
>> activities should flow into the Chapter activities rather than try to 
>> divorce each from the other.  This democratic structure and functioning has 
>> worked well for FSMK, FSFTN, Swecha, FSMM and other bodies affiliated to 
>> FSMI.
>> Regards
>> Vikram
>> 
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