A great idea thea..which ever the date..can always  have wiki time..:-)
On Mar 28, 2012 4:15 PM, "Grace Kariuki" <gkariuk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do agree with abbass and David.lets not repeat a mistake..anyway with
> that aside,am in for that easter sunday.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Gerrard kosgei 
> <gerrardkos...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Cliff
>> Thank you. It was just a suggestion and i am not opposed to localizing
>> the offline wikipedia.
>>
>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, cliff argwings 
>> <caargwi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Quite an Interesting Topic indeed!
>>>
>>> Well, I tend to like how Abbas closes it all down! There's no point
>>> repeating our mistake
>>> hoping to get a positive response from the schools. We just have no any
>>> other options
>>> but to localize the content of the offline syllabus, lest the whole
>>> syllabus will be rendered
>>> futile.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>>
>>> //Cliff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Gerrard,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you whole-heartedly that it can be used to broaden
>>>> students' minds. But you are missing one very important aspect: that
>>>> History student in Kamukunji is more interested cramming in Colonization in
>>>> Kenya (which is not found in offline Wikipedia) than reading (for leisure)
>>>> a history topic such as The British Empire (which is found in the version
>>>> we installed). IMO, high school students want to read content for the sake
>>>> of passing exams. Period. And the SOS version fails at delivering such
>>>> goals.
>>>>
>>>> Now we have to choices: either to use the current version of Wikipedia
>>>> and distribute it (hoping against hope that we'll receive positive results
>>>> contrary to the feedback we got at the pilot), or incorporate the feedback,
>>>> create a custom-made version for Kenyan students and hope that this time
>>>> round, we'll be able to increase Wikipedia readership in Kenya. I'd
>>>> personally vouch for the latter, since I think that it's morally wrong for
>>>> us to _not_ use the learnings from the past in our future projects,
>>>> especially when it involves donor funds.
>>>>
>>>> Abbas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:48:45 +0300
>>>>
>>>> From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
>>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>> Just a quick question.What was the discussion? I thought it was about
>>>> assisting students in Kamukunji. Sorry if i deviated from that. I do hope
>>>> you have a good party though.
>>>>
>>>> Abbas
>>>> I know it is under development but considering the non-digital
>>>> encyclopedias i had in my former school, the offline wikipedia is far more
>>>> useful than you would know. It may be irrelevant to curricula but usefull
>>>> to broaden the students minds.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Mugo <raidar...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Abbas,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for pointing out that Gerrald's view was not relative to the
>>>> discussion. I would like to suggest something for all new members, please
>>>> take time to study the activities we have undertaken before making
>>>> contributions.
>>>>
>>>> I will only be able to host a maximum of 12 people at my place so again
>>>> I will chose to go for old members due to oblivious reasons. The weekend
>>>> after Easter on Saturday I have a high school get together so I will not be
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can take a quick survey to see who would be available on the
>>>> Easter Sunday evening... Monday is is holiday. If we make 10 people +, we
>>>> are good to go. People who have not at all been involved with the Wikipedia
>>>> for Schools project will get the least consideration for this one.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abbas Mahmood 
>>>> <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300
>>>> > From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi guys
>>>> >
>>>> > The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available
>>>> > now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am
>>>> > sure it will help them lotz.
>>>> >
>>>> > Gerrard
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gerrard,
>>>>
>>>> Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had
>>>> installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the
>>>> content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version,
>>>> because we don't want to repeat past mistakes.
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us
>>>> after the Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could
>>>> also act as a get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience
>>>> at the Chapters Meeting. Thanks for the offer :-)
>>>>
>>>> --Abbas.
>>>>
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