Quite an Interesting Topic indeed!

Well, I tend to like how Abbas closes it all down! There's no point
repeating our mistake
hoping to get a positive response from the schools. We just have no any
other options
but to localize the content of the offline syllabus, lest the whole
syllabus will be rendered
futile.

Warmly,

//Cliff

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Gerrard,
>
> I agree with you whole-heartedly that it can be used to broaden students'
> minds. But you are missing one very important aspect: that History student
> in Kamukunji is more interested cramming in Colonization in Kenya (which is
> not found in offline Wikipedia) than reading (for leisure) a history topic
> such as The British Empire (which is found in the version we installed).
> IMO, high school students want to read content for the sake of passing
> exams. Period. And the SOS version fails at delivering such goals.
>
> Now we have to choices: either to use the current version of Wikipedia and
> distribute it (hoping against hope that we'll receive positive results
> contrary to the feedback we got at the pilot), or incorporate the feedback,
> create a custom-made version for Kenyan students and hope that this time
> round, we'll be able to increase Wikipedia readership in Kenya. I'd
> personally vouch for the latter, since I think that it's morally wrong for
> us to _not_ use the learnings from the past in our future projects,
> especially when it involves donor funds.
>
> Abbas.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:48:45 +0300
>
> From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>
> David,
> Just a quick question.What was the discussion? I thought it was about
> assisting students in Kamukunji. Sorry if i deviated from that. I do hope
> you have a good party though.
>
> Abbas
> I know it is under development but considering the non-digital
> encyclopedias i had in my former school, the offline wikipedia is far more
> useful than you would know. It may be irrelevant to curricula but usefull
> to broaden the students minds.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Mugo <raidar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Abbas,
>
> Thanks for pointing out that Gerrald's view was not relative to the
> discussion. I would like to suggest something for all new members, please
> take time to study the activities we have undertaken before making
> contributions.
>
> I will only be able to host a maximum of 12 people at my place so again I
> will chose to go for old members due to oblivious reasons. The weekend
> after Easter on Saturday I have a high school get together so I will not be
> available.
>
> Maybe we can take a quick survey to see who would be available on the
> Easter Sunday evening... Monday is is holiday. If we make 10 people +, we
> are good to go. People who have not at all been involved with the Wikipedia
> for Schools project will get the least consideration for this one.
>
> David.
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>  > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300
> > From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
>
> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
> >
> > Hi guys
> >
> > The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available
> > now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am
> > sure it will help them lotz.
> >
> > Gerrard
>
> Hi Gerrard,
>
> Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had
> installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the
> content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version,
> because we don't want to repeat past mistakes.
>
> David,
>
> I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us after
> the Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could also
> act as a get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience at the
> Chapters Meeting. Thanks for the offer :-)
>
> --Abbas.
>
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