I do agree with abbass and David.lets not repeat a mistake..anyway with that aside,am in for that easter sunday.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Gerrard kosgei <[email protected]>wrote: > Cliff > Thank you. It was just a suggestion and i am not opposed to localizing the > offline wikipedia. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, cliff argwings <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Quite an Interesting Topic indeed! >> >> Well, I tend to like how Abbas closes it all down! There's no point >> repeating our mistake >> hoping to get a positive response from the schools. We just have no any >> other options >> but to localize the content of the offline syllabus, lest the whole >> syllabus will be rendered >> futile. >> >> Warmly, >> >> //Cliff >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abbas Mahmood <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Gerrard, >>> >>> I agree with you whole-heartedly that it can be used to broaden >>> students' minds. But you are missing one very important aspect: that >>> History student in Kamukunji is more interested cramming in Colonization in >>> Kenya (which is not found in offline Wikipedia) than reading (for leisure) >>> a history topic such as The British Empire (which is found in the version >>> we installed). IMO, high school students want to read content for the sake >>> of passing exams. Period. And the SOS version fails at delivering such >>> goals. >>> >>> Now we have to choices: either to use the current version of Wikipedia >>> and distribute it (hoping against hope that we'll receive positive results >>> contrary to the feedback we got at the pilot), or incorporate the feedback, >>> create a custom-made version for Kenyan students and hope that this time >>> round, we'll be able to increase Wikipedia readership in Kenya. I'd >>> personally vouch for the latter, since I think that it's morally wrong for >>> us to _not_ use the learnings from the past in our future projects, >>> especially when it involves donor funds. >>> >>> Abbas. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:48:45 +0300 >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools >>> >>> David, >>> Just a quick question.What was the discussion? I thought it was about >>> assisting students in Kamukunji. Sorry if i deviated from that. I do hope >>> you have a good party though. >>> >>> Abbas >>> I know it is under development but considering the non-digital >>> encyclopedias i had in my former school, the offline wikipedia is far more >>> useful than you would know. It may be irrelevant to curricula but usefull >>> to broaden the students minds. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Mugo <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> Abbas, >>> >>> Thanks for pointing out that Gerrald's view was not relative to the >>> discussion. I would like to suggest something for all new members, please >>> take time to study the activities we have undertaken before making >>> contributions. >>> >>> I will only be able to host a maximum of 12 people at my place so again >>> I will chose to go for old members due to oblivious reasons. The weekend >>> after Easter on Saturday I have a high school get together so I will not be >>> available. >>> >>> Maybe we can take a quick survey to see who would be available on the >>> Easter Sunday evening... Monday is is holiday. If we make 10 people +, we >>> are good to go. People who have not at all been involved with the Wikipedia >>> for Schools project will get the least consideration for this one. >>> >>> David. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abbas Mahmood >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300 >>> > From: [email protected] >>> >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools >>> > >>> > Hi guys >>> > >>> > The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available >>> > now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am >>> > sure it will help them lotz. >>> > >>> > Gerrard >>> >>> Hi Gerrard, >>> >>> Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had >>> installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the >>> content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version, >>> because we don't want to repeat past mistakes. >>> >>> David, >>> >>> I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us after >>> the Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could also >>> act as a get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience at the >>> Chapters Meeting. Thanks for the offer :-) >>> >>> --Abbas. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------- >>> David Mugo, >>> ICT & E-Commerce Consultant, >>> http://majibu.com >>> Twitter: @raidarmax >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaKE mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >
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