I do agree with abbass and David.lets not repeat a mistake..anyway with
that aside,am in for that easter sunday.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Gerrard kosgei <gerrardkos...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Cliff
> Thank you. It was just a suggestion and i am not opposed to localizing the
> offline wikipedia.
>
>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, cliff argwings <caargwi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Quite an Interesting Topic indeed!
>>
>> Well, I tend to like how Abbas closes it all down! There's no point
>> repeating our mistake
>> hoping to get a positive response from the schools. We just have no any
>> other options
>> but to localize the content of the offline syllabus, lest the whole
>> syllabus will be rendered
>> futile.
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> //Cliff
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Gerrard,
>>>
>>> I agree with you whole-heartedly that it can be used to broaden
>>> students' minds. But you are missing one very important aspect: that
>>> History student in Kamukunji is more interested cramming in Colonization in
>>> Kenya (which is not found in offline Wikipedia) than reading (for leisure)
>>> a history topic such as The British Empire (which is found in the version
>>> we installed). IMO, high school students want to read content for the sake
>>> of passing exams. Period. And the SOS version fails at delivering such
>>> goals.
>>>
>>> Now we have to choices: either to use the current version of Wikipedia
>>> and distribute it (hoping against hope that we'll receive positive results
>>> contrary to the feedback we got at the pilot), or incorporate the feedback,
>>> create a custom-made version for Kenyan students and hope that this time
>>> round, we'll be able to increase Wikipedia readership in Kenya. I'd
>>> personally vouch for the latter, since I think that it's morally wrong for
>>> us to _not_ use the learnings from the past in our future projects,
>>> especially when it involves donor funds.
>>>
>>> Abbas.
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:48:45 +0300
>>>
>>> From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>>>
>>> David,
>>> Just a quick question.What was the discussion? I thought it was about
>>> assisting students in Kamukunji. Sorry if i deviated from that. I do hope
>>> you have a good party though.
>>>
>>> Abbas
>>> I know it is under development but considering the non-digital
>>> encyclopedias i had in my former school, the offline wikipedia is far more
>>> useful than you would know. It may be irrelevant to curricula but usefull
>>> to broaden the students minds.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Mugo <raidar...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> Abbas,
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing out that Gerrald's view was not relative to the
>>> discussion. I would like to suggest something for all new members, please
>>> take time to study the activities we have undertaken before making
>>> contributions.
>>>
>>> I will only be able to host a maximum of 12 people at my place so again
>>> I will chose to go for old members due to oblivious reasons. The weekend
>>> after Easter on Saturday I have a high school get together so I will not be
>>> available.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can take a quick survey to see who would be available on the
>>> Easter Sunday evening... Monday is is holiday. If we make 10 people +, we
>>> are good to go. People who have not at all been involved with the Wikipedia
>>> for Schools project will get the least consideration for this one.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abbas Mahmood 
>>> <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>   > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300
>>> > From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>>> >
>>> > Hi guys
>>> >
>>> > The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available
>>> > now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am
>>> > sure it will help them lotz.
>>> >
>>> > Gerrard
>>>
>>> Hi Gerrard,
>>>
>>> Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had
>>> installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the
>>> content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version,
>>> because we don't want to repeat past mistakes.
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us after
>>> the Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could also
>>> act as a get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience at the
>>> Chapters Meeting. Thanks for the offer :-)
>>>
>>> --Abbas.
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