Cliff Thank you. It was just a suggestion and i am not opposed to localizing the offline wikipedia.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, cliff argwings <caargwi...@gmail.com>wrote: > Quite an Interesting Topic indeed! > > Well, I tend to like how Abbas closes it all down! There's no point > repeating our mistake > hoping to get a positive response from the schools. We just have no any > other options > but to localize the content of the offline syllabus, lest the whole > syllabus will be rendered > futile. > > Warmly, > > //Cliff > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote: > >> Gerrard, >> >> I agree with you whole-heartedly that it can be used to broaden students' >> minds. But you are missing one very important aspect: that History student >> in Kamukunji is more interested cramming in Colonization in Kenya (which is >> not found in offline Wikipedia) than reading (for leisure) a history topic >> such as The British Empire (which is found in the version we installed). >> IMO, high school students want to read content for the sake of passing >> exams. Period. And the SOS version fails at delivering such goals. >> >> Now we have to choices: either to use the current version of Wikipedia >> and distribute it (hoping against hope that we'll receive positive results >> contrary to the feedback we got at the pilot), or incorporate the feedback, >> create a custom-made version for Kenyan students and hope that this time >> round, we'll be able to increase Wikipedia readership in Kenya. I'd >> personally vouch for the latter, since I think that it's morally wrong for >> us to _not_ use the learnings from the past in our future projects, >> especially when it involves donor funds. >> >> Abbas. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:48:45 +0300 >> >> From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com >> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools >> >> David, >> Just a quick question.What was the discussion? I thought it was about >> assisting students in Kamukunji. Sorry if i deviated from that. I do hope >> you have a good party though. >> >> Abbas >> I know it is under development but considering the non-digital >> encyclopedias i had in my former school, the offline wikipedia is far more >> useful than you would know. It may be irrelevant to curricula but usefull >> to broaden the students minds. >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Mugo <raidar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Abbas, >> >> Thanks for pointing out that Gerrald's view was not relative to the >> discussion. I would like to suggest something for all new members, please >> take time to study the activities we have undertaken before making >> contributions. >> >> I will only be able to host a maximum of 12 people at my place so again I >> will chose to go for old members due to oblivious reasons. The weekend >> after Easter on Saturday I have a high school get together so I will not be >> available. >> >> Maybe we can take a quick survey to see who would be available on the >> Easter Sunday evening... Monday is is holiday. If we make 10 people +, we >> are good to go. People who have not at all been involved with the Wikipedia >> for Schools project will get the least consideration for this one. >> >> David. >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abbas Mahmood <abbas...@hotmail.com>wrote: >> >> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300 >> > From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com >> >> > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools >> > >> > Hi guys >> > >> > The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available >> > now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am >> > sure it will help them lotz. >> > >> > Gerrard >> >> Hi Gerrard, >> >> Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had >> installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the >> content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version, >> because we don't want to repeat past mistakes. >> >> David, >> >> I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us after >> the Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could also >> act as a get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience at the >> Chapters Meeting. Thanks for the offer :-) >> >> --Abbas. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------------- >> David Mugo, >> ICT & E-Commerce Consultant, >> http://majibu.com >> Twitter: @raidarmax >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >
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