Billinghurst,

That might work for me, with a Login.

But does this also work for random readers, who don't have a login? Who
don't know, that there are preferences (and especially what can be done
with them?)

But more important: please don't (just) focus in namespaces for every
Wikisource-Project. You might loose at least de.WS. I can't see changing
something, that works fine for this project...  Especially not to change a
system, that is quite different, from what they have now. That is all I am
asking for. de.ws is working with templates to differ, not with namespaces.

for instance Johann Wolfgang von Goethe:
<https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe#Bibliographien>

Goethe was an author, but there are also works about Goethe. In de.ws
portal-page and author-page about Geothe are merged in one. There is no
difference. Don't expect something else.

Best, Anika

2017-11-02 9:07 GMT+01:00 billinghurst <[email protected]>:

> Anika,
>
> That is matter long resolved in my opinion with the change in the default
> search namespaces that the communities made, and similarly with our
> redefining content namespaces. While main namespace will always take
> preference to the other nss in results, they show up pretty quickly where
> you have an intitle: match.
>
> At enWS I would say that we lost more searches to subpages, so with the
> ability to change your search preferences with subphrase matches, much of
> that is addressed (though it is not the default search configuration at
> this point).
>
> The completion suggester
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CirrusSearch/CompletionSuggester>
> is an algorithm for search suggestions with better typo correction and
> search relevance.
> Default (recommended)
> Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects.
> Subphrase matching (recommended for longer page titles)
> Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in
> titles.
> Strict mode (advanced)
> No typo correction. No accent folding. Strict matching.
> Redirect mode (advanced)
> No typo correction. Resolves close redirects.
> Redirect mode with subphrase matching (advanced)
> No typo correction. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in titles.
>
> Regards, Billinghurst
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Anika Born" <[email protected]>
> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <
> [email protected]>
> Sent: 2/11/2017 6:37:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] wikisource "work" pages or "multiple editions"
> pages
>
> 2017-11-01 16:40 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]>:
>
>>
>> From afar, the Opera: pages on it.ws are very close to the pages with
>> the template {{Éditions}} on fr.ws or the template {{Versions}} on en.ws
>> (and similar system elsewhere).
>>
>> The main difference is having a separate namespace A second major
>> difference is that the templates on fr.ws and en.ws are very light while
>> the {{Opera}} template took data from Wikidata (but that's an independent
>> problem, it's possible to change the {{Éditions}} or {{Versions}} templates
>> to do exactly the same thing without having a specific namespace).
>>
>> I'm almost convinced too, but in order to create a new namespace on a
>> project you have to convinced the local community. That's why I'm still
>> playing the Devil's advocate role and want to learn about the inconvenients
>> of this system
>>
>
> A reason why there are no different namespaces for work-, edition-,
> author-, list- and other portal pages in de.ws is the ws-search. When you
> are looking for "Goethe" in the (simple) search (as readers may do) on WS,
> you might get to
> * https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Tafellied,_zu_Goethe%E2%
> 80%99s_Geburtstage but not to
> * https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe
> <https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe#Bibliographien>
> with all the interesting stuff, if that page was in another namespace...
>
> So there was the desition to use templates (and categories) for these
> different kind of pages: https://de.wikisource.org/
> wiki/Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen,_Listen
>
>
> <https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen,_Listen>
> I think German Wikisource Community won't give this up and switch to using
> multiple namespaces (besides Wikisource: and Page:namespace).
>
> Best
> Anika
>
>
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