Consider too the possibility of using a "pseudo-namespace", while testing the stuff it source used a prefix "Opera": for ns0 pages devoided to "works" with few drawback (and the big advantage to make things clear)
Alex 2017-11-02 10:30 GMT+01:00 Sam Wilson <[email protected]>: > I must admit, I'm not a huge fan of multiple namespaces in wikis. They're > mostly not necessary! :-) (Don't worry, I'm not suggesting getting rid of > any either.) > > And certainly, from the point of view of integrating Wikidata and moving > towards better metadata and searchability, I don't think we need all > Wikisources to unify on any particular set of namespaces. I think any > future metadata system must just work with all the different current > set-ups (and I think it can, quite well). > > —Sam. > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2017, at 05:21 PM, Anika Born wrote: > > Billinghurst, > > That might work for me, with a Login. > > But does this also work for random readers, who don't have a login? Who > don't know, that there are preferences (and especially what can be done > with them?) > > But more important: please don't (just) focus in namespaces for every > Wikisource-Project. You might loose at least de.WS. I can't see changing > something, that works fine for this project... Especially not to change a > system, that is quite different, from what they have now. That is all I am > asking for. de.ws is working with templates to differ, not with > namespaces. > > for instance Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: > <https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe#Bibliographien> > > Goethe was an author, but there are also works about Goethe. In de.ws > portal-page and author-page about Geothe are merged in one. There is no > difference. Don't expect something else. > > Best, Anika > > 2017-11-02 9:07 GMT+01:00 billinghurst <[email protected]>: > > > Anika, > > That is matter long resolved in my opinion with the change in the default > search namespaces that the communities made, and similarly with our > redefining content namespaces. While main namespace will always take > preference to the other nss in results, they show up pretty quickly where > you have an intitle: match. > > At enWS I would say that we lost more searches to subpages, so with the > ability to change your search preferences with subphrase matches, much of > that is addressed (though it is not the default search configuration at > this point). > > The completion suggester > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CirrusSearch/CompletionSuggester> > is an algorithm for search suggestions with better typo correction and > search relevance. > > Default (recommended) > Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects. > > Subphrase matching (recommended for longer page titles) > Corrects up to two typos. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in > titles. > > Strict mode (advanced) > No typo correction. No accent folding. Strict matching. > > Redirect mode (advanced) > No typo correction. Resolves close redirects. > > Redirect mode with subphrase matching (advanced) > No typo correction. Resolves close redirects. Matches subphrase in titles. > > Regards, Billinghurst > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Anika Born" <[email protected]> > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < > [email protected]> > > Sent: 2/11/2017 6:37:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] wikisource "work" pages or "multiple editions" > pages > > 2017-11-01 16:40 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]>: > > > > > From afar, the Opera: pages on it.ws are very close to the pages with the > template {{Éditions}} on fr.ws or the template {{Versions}} on en.ws (and > similar system elsewhere). > > The main difference is having a separate namespace A second major > difference is that the templates on fr.ws and en.ws are very light while > the {{Opera}} template took data from Wikidata (but that's an independent > problem, it's possible to change the {{Éditions}} or {{Versions}} templates > to do exactly the same thing without having a specific namespace). > > I'm almost convinced too, but in order to create a new namespace on a > project you have to convinced the local community. That's why I'm still > playing the Devil's advocate role and want to learn about the inconvenients > of this system > > > A reason why there are no different namespaces for work-, edition-, > author-, list- and other portal pages in de.ws is the ws-search. When you > are looking for "Goethe" in the (simple) search (as readers may do) on WS, > you might get to > * https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Tafellied,_zu_Goethe%E2%80% > 99s_Geburtstage but not to > * https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe > <https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe#Bibliographien> > with all the interesting stuff, if that page was in another namespace... > > So there was the desition to use templates (and categories) for these > different kind of pages: https://de.wikisource.org/wiki > /Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen,_Listen > > <https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Seiten_zu_Autoren,_Texten,_Themen,_Listen> > I think German Wikisource Community won't give this up and switch to using > multiple namespaces (besides Wikisource: and Page:namespace). > > Best > Anika > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > *_______________________________________________* > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > >
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