On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:42 AM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
> *Precisely*. This is why the new (and it is new) demand to trash the
> present category tree before *possibly* implementing a category
> intersection feature is, in practical terms, indistinguishable from
> sheer contemptuous obstructionism.

Nobody "demanded" this except possibly Daniel Schwen, who has never
even committed anything to SVN outside of WikiMiniAtlas, let alone
representing the opinion of The Developers.  If you are incapable of
distinguishing the personal opinion of a random person on this list
from "demands" by "the developers", maybe you should unsubscribe and
save everyone the trouble.  That way you'll avoid annoying the
developers by posting uninformed and obnoxious things like this, and
avoid confusing non-developers by forwarding them irrelevant or
incomprehensible wikitech-l posts out of context (and this is not the
first time you've done that).

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Daniel Schwen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I never demanded that. Geez. What I want is the commons community
> pledges support for a change of the categorization system. Putting
> intersection in the interface before they do is a _waste of time_.
> I'm asking for them to show the _tiniest_ sign of support. The
> programmers have already bent over backwards (including me with my own
> intersection tool)

Since when do we write features only for Commons?  Some wikis already
have atomic categories -- e.g.,
<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Frau>.  It would be a useful
feature to any number of users regardless of what Commons does or does
not do.  In fact, it would be useful to Commons too even without
atomic categorization, just not as useful as it could be.

On the other hand, it's thoroughly unreasonable to expect any wiki to
change how they do things based on technologies that have been talked
about for years and may or may not materialize in the foreseeable
future.  No, stuff on the toolserver that isn't integrated into the
interface (and doesn't have a very nice interface itself) doesn't
count.

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