May I just say if the time ever comes where MediaWiki developers have to
submit an RfC, coordinate with local wikis of numerous different languages,
and wait weeks for community feedback and consensus for minor UI color
changes, then all development would have been brought to a halt. It is that
kind of bikeshedding and red-tape that often makes enterprise software
development so cumbersome and loathed.

Honestly, I don't even think this change needs to be announced. If wikis
are overriding their own colors using common.css, then it is their due
diligence to make sure their custom unsupported code keeps up to date with
the base MediaWiki software.

*-- *
Regards,

*Tyler Romeo*
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https://parent5446.nyc

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Steven Walling <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Pine, please chill for once.
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 5:40 PM Legoktm <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 12/09/2016 05:25 PM, Pine W wrote:
> > > While I appreciate the attempt to be funny, I am not amused in this
> case.
> > > Surprise UI changes could, for example, result in thousands of dollars'
> > > worth of instructional videos becoming instantly out of sync with the
> > > real-world user experience. Also, users who may have spent considerable
> > > time perfecting their templates may be surprised to find that they need
> > to
> > > make changes to keep the templates in sync with other changes to the
> UI.
> > > The problem isn't so much that the UI was changed, as that it was
> changed
> > > without notice and consultation. This isn't funny.
> >
> > Well, I was specifically responding to Strainu's comment that "No change
> > is to small to be disliked by one or more people!" which seemed to be in
> > jest too.
> >
> > But I think you're significantly over-exaggerating the costs of this UI
> > change, and changes in general. MediaWiki's UI changes literally every
> > day when localization messages are updated, reworded, or added. Special
> > pages are re-organized to be made more intuitive, toolbars re-arranged,
> > etc. If you're making instructional videos, colors *barely* changing
> > seem like the least of your problems in terms of becoming out of date.
> > The VisualEditor project has a script that automatically generates
> > localized screenshots of the user interface so the user manual stays up
> > to date, I don't know if any solution has been worked out for videos yet.
> >
> > -- Legoktm
> >
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